Alachua County Commission approves RFP for 13-acre single-family development at SE 15th St and SE 8th Ave
BY JENNIFER CABRERA
GAINESVILLE, Fla. – At their August 27 Regular Meeting, the Alachua County Commission approved a Request for Proposal for a single-family development on 13 acres that were purchased by the County after the board voted to withdraw local match funding for a workforce housing project at the site, killing that project.
Candie Nixon from Community Support Services reminded the board that they had asked staff on May 28 to initiate source selection for development of workforce and market-rate single-family housing on a 13-acre site; the property consists of two parcels accessible from the north by SE 8th Avenue and from the west by SE 15th Street and is the same site where a project from Ability Housing was rejected in 2023.
Goals of the project
The Scope of Service for the proposed Request for Proposal (RFP) for the East Gainesville Legacy development states that the County may choose to provide the property to the developer at no cost, and the goals are to provide workforce housing at various income levels that will remain affordable in the future. The development should be walkable, with safe routes for walkers and bicyclists, and it should have diverse architectural styles and highly energy-efficient construction and integration of solar where possible, as well as heat pumps for heating and cooling. The buildings and landscaping should be durable and low-maintenance.
Nixon said that in community engagement meetings, the most votes went to single-family homes and the lowest number of votes went to multi-family homes (mixed use, recreational use, and public/institutional facility use were in the middle). The attendees also wanted market-rate homes, as opposed to subsidized homes.
Commissioner Ken Cornell said he liked staff’s recommendation and outlined the process: The County hopes to get four to six proposals back that identify a developer’s idea for a single-family residential community, including green space, parks, and other amenities for the entire community; their community engagement process; and how it would work from a financial standpoint. An evaluation committee including two community members will consider proposals that are considered to be responsive and will rank them, and then the board will award the contract in a public meeting.
Motion
Cornell made a motion to approve staff’s recommendation, and Commissioner Anna Prizzia seconded the motion.
After public comment from a number of people who mostly said they live in east Gainesville, County Manager Michele Lieberman suggested that multiple developers could be allowed to split the award or perhaps the board could award the contract to one developer who will hire multiple other developers as subcontractors.
Points for small businesses and minority-owned businesses
Chair Mary Alford asked whether they could add points for minority and women contractors, and Procurement Manager T.J. White said the County’s policy only adds points for small businesses; he said the Small Business Enterprise program “is an inclusive program that addresses both small businesses, minority, and local business.” He explained, “If we have a lot of local contractors that can make sure that they are certified as a Small Business Enterprise, and they could team up with a large developer or multiple developers, then they have an opportunity to have better power to bring [the proposal] forth to the County as an application.”
Prizzia said she would like to add language to the RFP that the County is interested in seeing collaborative proposals with different developers.
Cornell also supported enabling multiple developers to present a joint proposal, saying, “You know, Haile Plantation was developed, but when it started, it was 10 different builders. And all we’re looking for is what they have over there, over here.”
Amendments to the motion
Cornell asked to add the following to the motion: “Collaboration with local providers will be given additional points under the RFP.” Prizzia agreed.
After a discussion about whether state statutes allow the County to give extra points to businesses owned by minorities and women, Prizzia asked staff to review the statutes and bring back options for additional points for minority-owned businesses in their procurement policies.
Cornell said, “Especially for this transaction. I mean, we have heard loud and clear: we want local businesses. We want local contractors. We want minority-owned businesses. If we have the opportunity to include that in this RFP and state statute allows that, please do.” He added that to the motion.
Types of housing
Nixon said the mix of housing would be different in each proposal, but she expected a “diverse community with different types of single-family homes. Some areas may be detached, some may not… This is the County’s first time doing this type of project, so we’re not certain what it’s going to look at. We’re going to really depend on communicating with our developers and also the developers communicating with the community.”
Cornell said the County has added significant value with 13 acres of land and the community engagement work that has been done and added, “I’ve never seen a County contribute 13 acres of land, all this staff time, all this effort. So there’s a lot going into making this a successful project. Look, Heartwood has its challenges. They’re priced too high, okay?… It’s 300 or 400 grand of tax dollars in each of those lots. It’s just too much; it isn’t working. So we’ve learned a lot, we’ve observed a lot, and I think this is the right step.”
Commissioner Chuck Chestnut said he had “some concerns right now… because I’m hearing different things here. I’m hearing the community say they want single-family detached. Now I’m hearing that there is a possibility for detached and attached… What are we talking about? Are we still with single-family detached housing? Are we talking about condos?” He said he would only support detached houses.
Nixon said, “They are single-family detached.”
Although the RFP specifies diverse architectural styles, Chestnut said, “One of the other most important things… [is] that it’s not going to be a cookie-cutter type of housing. I do not like that. That destroys a neighborhood… It reminds you of an apartment complex instead of a neighborhood.”
Lieberman interjected, “To be clear,… right now, the scope is left open to allow for flexibility in housing types. They would all be owner homes, but that may not come back as all detached unless you specify that.” She pointed out that Haile Plantation has a mix of different types of housing.
Will these houses be affordable?
During a discussion about whether this would be affordable housing, Cornell said, “What I’ve heard the citizens say is, we want it to be market-rate. So a smaller house that’s 1,200 square feet, and it’s a 3/2, or even a 2/2, would be market rate, but it would also qualify as workforce housing. That’s what I think the community is fine with. What the community is not fine with is… subsidized housing, that’s what we’re hearing they don’t want there, and we actually have a policy of not supporting [that] east of Main Street.” He said that if the County donates the land, that helps the developer make it financially feasible to build lower-cost housing.
Alford said, “As someone that has helped design neighborhoods. I love to hear ‘diversity of housing.’ I love to hear ‘no cookie-cutter.’ I love to hear ‘energy efficiency.’ I love to hear ‘quality development,’ and that’s what we’re talking about. So I’m very excited about this.”
Restated motion and vote
Cornell restated the motion: “It’s staff’s recommendation [for the Scope of Service in the RFP], adding… that additional points will be given for collaborative efforts [between] local builders and developers and additional points will be given, if possible, for minority-owned businesses.”
The motion passed unanimously.
Alford concluded by thanking the people who had attended the meeting: “Thank you all for caring about your neighborhood. And I look forward to this being a really, really great project, and I’m really proud of what we’re doing. I really am. So thank you all.”
Well it’s on the Eastside so Chucknut must be having a Chucknut.
Yep, DEI ing the award: “add points for minority and women contractors”, so the best contractor and if the same has lowest bid, they can still lose if they happen to be white males. That’s Racism cut & dry. Add in the “affordable”/small and cheap will mean forget anyone looking for an upscale place.
Funny that Poe, Queen P, Ward Cornell, others don’t live near “affordable” neighborhoods. Like Nancy P, Kamala, Bernie, Schumer, Obamas, don’t live anything like working folks. Democrat elites, nationally, and in Gainesville are far removed from those they “claim” to represent and almost everything they do benefits themselves and worsens the plight of the working man (like the highest inflation in 45 years from Joe & Cackles via the inflation reduction act…LOL)! Nancy P’s relatives hugely benefitted from Obama’s “stimulus” that included solar firm Solyndra Energy bankrupt in 2 years losing the US gov’s $500 million! The offices were built with high end showers that had heated walls so one wouldn’t get cold. LOL.
Christine, hate to break it to you, but no one purposefully lives in tenements and share cropper shacks unless they are monks and nuns, including the GOP candidates, both of whom are stinking rich. Neither Harris or Walz are, and they didn’t grow up that way either.
The question for voters who claim to care about these things – like you – is which party does pass legislation aimed at benefitting those left well off, and the record, including very recent history, is that it’s the Democrats.
As to inflation, if you were better informed, you’d know it was a predicted result of the pandemic (supply lines broken and resultant shortages) and actions governments around the world rightly took to keep us from falling into a depression and deflation (government spending which increased dollars chasing fewer products)), which is worse than inflation. In fact the GOP and Trump passed the same type legislation in 2020 and Trump recommended an even bigger individual pay out for the one passed under Democratic leadership in 2021 – look it up. You may also look up the inflation rates for all developed countries since 2020 and you’ll find the US is doing better, or the same as the best, the inflation rate is down below 3%, wages kept up with inflation nationally, the stock market is setting records – as is oil production in the US – and the feared and predicted recession to follow all this is now off the boards as per the consensus of economists and the Fed.
Hate to break it to you Jazzy, but GOP politicians mainly go into politics well to do with earned or bequeathed money; Dems make their money doing “public service”. I wonder how that happens.
Yeah, or maybe to keep from spending the rest of their lives in jail. As to the money?
“Published 9:30 PM EDT, November 6, 2018
SHANGHAI (AP) — The Chinese government granted 18 trademarks to companies linked to President Donald Trump and his daughter Ivanka Trump over the last two months, Chinese public records show, raising concerns about conflicts of interest in the White House.
In October, China’s Trademark Office granted provisional approval for 16 trademarks to Ivanka Trump Marks LLC, bringing to 34 the total number of marks China has greenlighted this year, according to the office’s online database. The new approvals cover Ivanka-branded fashion gear including sunglasses, handbags, shoes and jewelry, as well as beauty services and voting machines.
The approvals came three months after Ivanka Trump announced she was dissolving her namesake brand to focus on government work.
China also granted provisional approval for two “Trump” trademarks to DTTM Operations LLC, headquartered at Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in New York. They cover branded restaurant, bar and hotel services, as well as clothing and shoes….”
https://apnews.com/article/0a3283036d2f4e699da4aa3c6dd01727
“Just months after leaving the White House in 2021, Jared Kushner secured a $2 billion investment from a Saudi crown prince-led fund, despite objections from the fund’s advisers about the deal.
A panel that screens investments for the Saudi sovereign wealth fund expressed concerns about Kushner’s new private equity firm, Affinity Partners. According to The New York Times, they cited issues like the firm’s inexperience, the possibility of the kingdom bearing most of the investment risk, unsatisfactory due diligence on the firm’s operations, an excessive asset management fee, and public relations risks due to Kushner’s previous role as a senior adviser to President Trump.
…This deal raised ethical concerns, as it could be seen as kickback for Kushner’s actions in the White House or an attempt to gain favor as Trump seeks another presidential term in 2024.
Kushner’s close ties to the Saudi crown prince, including his defense of him after the Khashoggi murder, have also drawn attention.”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jared-kushners-post-white-house-211939446.html
Easy now, Jazz. The monastic life sounds much more appealing to me every day. 🙂
I might have 99 problems but this could reduce the number greatly.
PS Christine, I don’t think JD Vance would want you worrying your pretty little head about these issues. You should just focus on reproducing, or if your past that age, teaching or otherwise caring for children. Trump would probably just want to check you out.
Nothing weird about them!
“Donald Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, said that professional women “choose a path to misery” when they prioritize careers over having children in a September 2021 podcast interview in which he also claimed men in America were “suppressed” in their masculinity….
At about 39 minutes into the recording, when asked what he saw inside elite institutions like Yale Law School that made him view them as corrupt, Vance answered: “You have women who think that truly the liberationist path is to spend 90 hours a week working in a cubicle at McKinsey instead of starting a family and having children.”
Vance added: “What they don’t realize – and I think some of them do eventually realize that, thank God – is that that is actually a path to misery. And the path to happiness and to fulfillment is something that these institutions are telling people not to do.
“The corruption is it puts people on a career pipeline that causes them to chase things that will make them miserable and unhappy,” Vance said. “And so they get in positions of power and then they project that misery and happiness on the rest of society.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/31/jd-vance-podcast-feminism-immigration
Vance’s wife is a successful lawyer and Yale Law School graduate. Obviously she doesn’t takes his stupid frat house BS seriously. Neither should we.
You do realize it’s East Gainesville not west if your looking for a community that would be inclusive to upscale people then go out west stop gentrifying our neighborhoods the same ones we where forced into in the 60s are now being grabbed up by those who forced us there
Then complain about the neighborhood in itself
“Chair Mary Alford asked whether they could add points for minority and women contractors.” Sure, because they need someone to prop them up. That’s what she’s saying, they’re not able to make it on their own; they’re not capable of making it on their own merits.
It’s people like her who marginalize and minimize people, who judge and feel people aren’t capable of being successful because of their color or gender.
You progressive liberal Democrats, there’s nothing “progressive” about you.
Unfortunately there’s many who voted to prop her up.
That’s the same reason those types will vote for Kamala.
Dude, race has nothing to do with it, but if Trump is the best white people can do for a presidential candidate, I’d vote for Jimmy Walker first.
Dudette, sure it does. It makes people feel better to think they have the opportunity to elect a minority female to the highest office in the US; all in the name of ‘equity.’
Even the former liberal media hero Chris Cuomo identified fallacies within the progressive liberal hypocrisy. (https://youtu.be/ZpvHYgPJi9k?si=2YiR_vqce6SmKHhe )
Explain why she wasn’t a viable candidate until the last moment. Just to be clear, she didn’t win the nomination, it was given to her by the same people who will run her and this country into the ground. Even Obama didn’t endorse her until the last moment. The real shame is that in a country of 300+ million people, these two are the best we can come up with?
You voted for Biden, you support and defend the inept and incompetent Gainesville leaders – wouldn’t expect any more from you. 🧨
Like I said race has nothing to do with it, except for a few who you describe, more than balanced out by racists like you who will oppose. Funny that you think success can only be achieved by white people while blacks are handed any they have, when, like Chris Rock says, “None of you white dudes would change places with me – and I’m rich.”
She won the nomination as the overwhelming choice of virtually all of the representatives of Democratic voters – the delegates – as well as the endorsement of all her “viable” competitors for the nomination, and all of whom gave speeches or otherwise took part at the convention.
As an elected AG for our most populous state as well being VP for the Biden presidency which pulled us out of the crisis – economic, medical, and foreign – Trump left us in by pretending Covid would just go away (negative GDP, lost more jobs than created, adding $8 trillion to the national debt, ad judged the worst in history by, the first since Herbert Hoover) – and judged by 154 presidential scholars as the worst US president in history, with Biden at 14th.
https://presidentialgreatnessproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Greatness-2024-Ranking.png
In foreign policy Biden regained international respect for the US and reconstructed our NATO military alliances, the most important we belong to, after Trump did Putin’s bidding by aiming to ruin it –
“In the days around a tumultuous NATO summit meeting last summer, they said, Mr. Trump told his top national security officials that he did not see the point of the military alliance, which he presented as a drain on the United States…”
He ended our Afghanistan involvement – which he had lobbied against continuing in 2010 – and which had disastrously set up by negotiating with the Taliban only – who he wanted to invite to Camp David – but cutting the Afghani government out, and than released 5,000 Taliban warriors including the guy who was their leader when the US left that August. Biden was told by the military that the Afghanis had the means and the will to hold out for months, if not indefinitely, based on the arms we left them and our ability to rearm them – corruption within the Afghani forces, including leaders personally keeping money and arms we supplied, led to those forces dropping their weapons and surrendering immediately. (Sorry for the women and girls living in that fundamentalist hell, but the Afghani’s did nothing to earn our respect or continued support.).
Since Trump broke off our deal with the Iranians, they went from being a year away from a nuclear bomb – regularly verified by both US and Israeli intelligence and the IAEA – they are now about a week out, whenever they decide to go. Not only does that put us, the region, and the world at great risk for eventual nuclear conflict , but any incentive for them to moderate their behavior – other than any successful internal changes through elections, a thin reed of hope – is militarily only.
Inflation and economic outlook, read my post above, and maybe add increased manufacturing throughout the mid-west, investment in our future from the Infrastructure bill – promised by Trump but achieved through Biden – which may include your internet if you live out in the boonies and have fiber optics, and our envious position among the world’s economies. That’s not how Trump left us.
Long story short, have you looked at the other party’s candidate? You might want to, but be ready for a shock. He’s not only selfish, rude, stupid, lacking in any dignity, and trust, but he lies continually and in sum is a pig of a man. Check it out – it’s hard to believe how bad he is.
Edited for clarity
Note: I support home rule and owners of property controlling it, not the state. I may occasionally support or oppose local elected leaders on any other issues and have done both here.
Like I said race has nothing to do with it, except for a few who you describe, more than balanced out by racists like you who will oppose. Funny that you think success can only be achieved by white people while blacks are handed any they have, when, like Chris Rock says, “None of you white dudes would change places with me – and I’m rich.”
She won the nomination as the overwhelming choice of virtually all of the representatives of Democratic voters – the delegates – as well as the endorsement of all her “viable” competitors for the nomination, and all of whom gave speeches or otherwise took part at the convention.
As an elected AG for our most populous state as well being VP for the Biden presidency which pulled us out of the crisis – economic, medical, and foreign – Trump left us in by pretending Covid would just go away (negative GDP, lost more jobs than created, adding $8 trillion to the national debt, ad judged the worst in history by, the first since Herbert Hoover) – and judged by 154 presidential scholars as the worst US president in history, with Biden at 14th, she is well qualified, and certainly better that Trump in 2016 and now, given he hasn’t learned anything – he lives a continually morphing lie and believes it.
https://presidentialgreatnessproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Greatness-2024-Ranking.png
In foreign policy Biden regained international respect for the US and reconstructed our NATO military alliances, the most important we belong to, after Trump did Putin’s bidding by aiming to ruin it –
“In the days around a tumultuous NATO summit meeting last summer, they said, Mr. Trump told his top national security officials that he did not see the point of the military alliance, which he presented as a drain on the United States…”
Biden ended our Afghanistan involvement, which he had lobbied against continuing in 2010 – and which had been disastrously set up by Trump negotiating with the Taliban only – who he wanted to invite to Camp David – but cutting the Afghani government out, and than released 5,000 Taliban warriors including the guy who was their leader when the US left that August. Biden was told by the military that the Afghanis had the means and the will to hold out for months, if not indefinitely, based on the arms we left them and our ability to rearm them, but corruption within the Afghani forces, including leaders personally keeping money and arms we supplied, led to those forces dropping their weapons and surrendering immediately. (Sorry for the women and girls living in that fundamentalist hell, but the Afghani’s did nothing to earn our respect or continued support.).
Since Trump broke off our deal with the Iranians, they went from being a year away from a nuclear bomb – regularly verified by both US and Israeli intelligence and the IAEA – and they are now about a week out, whenever they decide to go. Not only does that put us, the region, and the world at great risk for eventual nuclear conflict , but any incentive for them to moderate their behavior – other than any successful internal changes through elections, a thin reed of hope – is militarily only.
For inflation and economic outlook, read my post above, and maybe add increased manufacturing throughout the mid-west, investment in our future from the Infrastructure bill – promised by Trump but achieved through Biden – which may include your internet if you live out in the boonies and have fiber optics, and our envious position among the world’s economies. That’s not how Trump left us.
Long story short, have you looked at the other party’s candidate? You might want to, but be ready for a shock. He’s not only selfish, rude, stupid, lacking in any dignity, and trust, but he lies continually and in sum is a pig of a man. Check it out – it’s hard to believe how bad he is.
Funny how people like yourself throw out the race card at every opportunity to suit your narrative. They’re usually the same who hide behind it as if they’ve developed some sense of racial morality.
Whatever they’ve been feeding you, you’ve obviously taken a liking to it.
That’s ‘liking’ by the way, not ‘hiking.’
I seem to recall another conversation piece about your reluctance to get out and see the effects on the community being caused by those whose policies you support.
By the way, there’s no clarity needed. Even an idiot like yourself can figure it out.
You threw out the race card dummy. Don’t BS yourself.
If you would get out and see the crap downtown instead of piling it up you’d be able to see through what they’ve been telling you. Until then, you should just stop with your nonsense that rarely has merit. Try reviewing the quote from Mary Alford and my use of it and then see who said racist first.
You’ve managed to convince/fool some you’re a 1/2 intelligent person, to me you’ll always be another village idiot. If you need editing for clarity, ask one of your leaders. From what they say, Gainesville is full of highly educated voters.
I don’t assign field trips here and I don’t accept them (I did recommend a hike yesterday that I think everyone would enjoy, but I won’t be demanding feedback).
I go downtown on average about once a week and don’t need advice about it from idiots who hate it, and apparently their life. We live in a fabulous time with incredible wealth, the beneficiaries of advanced science, technology, and general knowledge – and, by the way, on more minor note, crime stats that have been going down for 40 years – and these fools think they live in hell. Hate to be them!
I’m offering feedback in much the same way you do.
Before you talk your BS about what isn’t there you should actually see what is.
What part of my going downtown weekly (and for years) did you not understand?
I understand your claim to going, however I also understand your reluctance and unwillingness to acknowledge the filth that is west of City Hall, both on 1st Ave and Main St.
You must be incredibly thankful for Ward’s message recognizing your being on his payroll.
I understand your claim to understanding BS, but given you obviously don’t understand much, I understand you like to post worthless opinions.
It’s factual that you don’t want to venture down NE 1st St.
Also just as factual is your refusal to acknowledge the conditions there.
One person’s trash is another’s treasure.
Don’t be scared to venture outside your comfort zone, usually the people who’ve left the trash have already moved.
Did Mini-Kenny Cornhole cry about any trees on this development?
So, who wants to pay $400K to live in that area?
I’m confident that the builders will sell the houses just like the lots weren’t free. Extra profit is always appreciated.
Talk about energy efficient ($$), not cookie cutter ($$), solar ($$), walkable community ($$), open space ($$)….affordable???
Assuming a house of reasonable size, you cannot build an energy inefficient house in Florida now a days unless you violate the building code.
Not cookie cutter shouldn’t increase costs by much. Assuming 20 houses, you could have 5 designs with 4 of each shuffled around.
Solar is expensive, but collectors only have approx 7 year pay back, so an investment one could say. But too expensive to be feasible I think, absent a grant.
Walkable – that has no meaning in this project, as space is too small to be anything other than walkable and it is it’s proximity to other locations nearby, which will make it “walkable” or not, and that is fixed.
Parks? Come on!
Sadly, it seems a bid from you may not be welcomed due to the commission’s need to pander to local DEI interests.
Thanks for your concern, but I have plenty of work.
Exactly nothing about will be affordable itll be just like those homes west of archer rd out by haile plantation.
Another clown operation. Haile on the eastside????? Gimme a break
Just an FYI. The home next to depot park that had the ribbon cutting 2 weeks ago that the city had the press release on was reduced from $266k to $229k yesterday.
That’s likely because of 2 things:
1. Location
2. The builder initially inflated the profit margins. (Imagine that. Such a caring community.)
So lets start with affordable housing by paying $230,000 per acre for land without any infrastructure? This LaLa land commission is ate up with LGB. Please do not vote for anyone currently on this tax, spend , and waste Joke of a Board. Keep it up and your sales tax initiatives and school funds will get voted out too.
GANG LAND.🔪🔪🔪
Minority preference = DEI = Affirmative Action = UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
My main issue is we are developing a lot without much thought to our roads. Expansion is going to happen.
But our roads are falling apart and not sustaining the number of vehicles we have at this time. Let alone the future.
And for tree city USA, it looks like the last little patch of green space will be gone for ever.
“safe routes for walkers”. I’m sure acc members will be strolling through this neighborhood.