Commissioner of Education recommends withholding School Board Members’ salaries for violating parents’ rights

BY JENNIFER CABRERA
GAINESVILLE, Fla. – Florida Commissioner of Education Anastasios Kamoutsas sent a letter today to Alachua County School Board Chair Sarah Rockwell, requiring her to attend the August 20 State Board of Education and recommending that School Board Members’ salaries be withheld after Vice Chair Tina Certain told deputies to remove a parent from the July 31 meeting.
During general public comment, about 30 people spoke in support of Rockwell after she apologized for posting “One less MAGA in the world,” referring to the death of Hulk Hogan; however, the room erupted into chaos after a man who identified himself as Jeremy criticized Rockwell and other board members: “You know what you said, and you should step down.”
Vice Chair Tina Certain, who was chairing the meeting after Chair Sarah Rockwell handed the gavel to her because Rockwell is still recovering from surgery, told the next speaker, Gainesville City Commissioner Casey Willits, to wait because she was having Jeremy removed. Deputies approached Jeremy, who argued that he had the right to be in a public meeting, and the audience started jeering and telling him to leave. Board Attorney David Delaney advised against removing Jeremy, and Certain announced that he could stay. The audience began chanting, “Get out! Get out! Get out!” Faye Williams stood up and started yelling, “This is our meeting! Get out!” Willits handed her the microphone. Williams continued yelling into the microphone that Jeremy should be removed, including, “He’s a white supremacist, so put his a** out!”; after about a minute of yelling, the meeting went into a recess to restore order.
After a few minutes, it was announced that Jeremy could stay but was choosing to leave “so that we can continue with the meeting.”
Watch the video here (time stamp 1:53:28):
Today, Kamoutsas posted on X, “If the Alachua County School Board thinks they’re going to violate parents’ first amendment rights at school board meetings, they’re in for a rude awakening. Given the circus at the latest meeting, my recommendation is that the State Board of Education withhold the entire school board’s salaries until they follow the law and respect parental rights in Alachua.” The letter can also be found at that link.
In his letter, Kamoutsas wrote to Rockwell, “Your recent unprofessional conduct has been brought to my attention. You made disparaging comments about the death of a conservative public figure, leading the public to lose confidence in your ability to treat all students and families fairly.”
Kamoutsas wrote that his concern was “reaffirmed by your decision to allow the rights of a parent defending a conservative position to be violated” at the meeting. The letter continued, “Your conduct during this meeting was inexcusable. You should be ashamed of your failure as a board member, let alone the board chair.”
Kamoutsas said Rockwell “sat idly by while the police were directed to escort this parent out of the school board meeting for expressing a conservative viewpoint… [T]he rest of the board stood by silently, failing to stop it. Because the board did not stop the First Amendment violation from occurring, all members should be held accountable for creating an environment where citizens’ constitutional rights are under attack.
“Let me be clear, by publicly humiliating this parent for his views, you’ve created a chilling effect on all parents with similar beliefs. You’ve signaled that certain viewpoints are not welcome in Alachua County Public Schools, and that should alarm every family in your district. Between your public comments and your actions last night, your lack of judgment and poor decision making has brought negative attention to Alachua County Public Schools on a national level… Since the Alachua County School Board has publicly failed to ensure free expression of all viewpoints during public comment, I have found probable cause that a violation of state law has occurred.”
Kamoutsas recommended that the State Board of Education withhold from the district an amount equal to the salaries of all board members and said Rockwell is required to attend the August 20 meeting of the State Board of Education “to demonstrate your compliance with state law. You will need to explain what correction actions have been taken to restore parents’ rights in Alachua County Public Schools.”
Kamoutsas also recommended that Rockwell not apply for renewal of her expired teaching certificate: “Florida educators must uphold the principles of ethical conduct and demonstrate the maturity and professional judgement necessary to work with children. Considering I will not permit you to hold a Florida teaching certificate, I think it’s time for some reflection on whether you are properly equipped to serve on the Alachua County School Board.”

What a contradiction. It was expected to see disruptive conservatives, but instead, liberals were the ones who pushed to disrespect the First Amendment rights of a parent. That being said, it means that free speech is once again conditioned based on political beliefs (liberals). This boat is sinking. The kids should be the top priority.
I guess it’s a good thing the liberal crowd didn’t have any ropes or stones around. I’m confident a Certain board member would have been the first to use whatever was within reach.
I recently read, Gavin Newsom is against school vouchers, while … wait for it, sending his own kids to exclusive private schools.
and? That’s how it’s supposed to be. You want your kid to go to private school, you pay for it. *shrug*
Parents are rapidly pulling their children from government schools. Govt schools are funded per pupil, so decline in enrollment equals decline in funding. If those funds aren’t going to govt schools then slash the taxes that fund the govt schools. Otherwise keep the taxes the same and allow school choice…this method helps poorer people who do not want to send their children to government indoctrination camps.
Ok.. Let’s take that to the next logical level. I don’t have kids in school, I shouldn’t be paying taxes for the school districts.
No, you get your School Taxes back and then pay for it!
If ACPS wants to support LGBTQ, gender affirming, no discipline for gun toting, bullying, wannabee thugs, then don’t use taxpayers money for it! Get it from the parents of the above!
Given he is paying for his kids school, that is not a contradiction. Yes, he is relatively rich, but in Florida people richer than him get vouchers for most of their kids private schools. This drains public schools of tax dollars and gives it to private schools which are not required to meet all the legal standards and services as the public schools.
That is what the controversy is about, not whether anyone’s kids should go to private schools.
You mean the rich people that pay more in property taxes get their own money back to pay for private school. Have you looked at what many people pay for property taxes in Alachua county? Go on the appraiser office website and look at the tax bills for the big houses. A lot of them are paying 12k or more a year. That’s a grand a month in taxes on top of what they pay for the mortgage. If you paid a grand a month for school, would you be asking for better results from public schools?
Jerry, Florida is a haven for rich tax payers and by data, the most regressive tax state in the country.
https://itep.org/whopays/florida-who-pays-7th-edition/
I’m finding it a little difficult to churn up the outrage for their paying the one tax that makes a significant dent in their income, when the poorest among us do that every day.
https://itep.org/whopays/florida-who-pays-7th-edition/
If you worked in administration for the school board, you would understand the true extent of this boards depravity.
How bout as a taxpayer, I recommend not paying our property taxes till you get your $hit show straightened out?
How’s that for an insurrection?
He said nothing racist at all. That’s the strange part, white supremacist comment was unnecessary. Guess it’s their go to though.
If this is the same Faye Williams, https://slfaherstoryproject.org/faye-williams-growing-sisterspace/, it makes perfect sense
She’s a meanace.
Wow thanks, I thought she was just a senile old lady. She is a true racist, who sees all white people with hate.
And you base your statement on what?
It seems there is more than one who responds under “Concerned Citizen”.
I will change mine.
You have to remember that Faye Williams was tge one that started with the white supremacy BS. She herself is a huge racist. Anyone who disagrees with her she throw the race card up. The left leaners showed their white sheets and hoods last night.
Careful now Bear. You’re likely to trigger a particular liberal who has pledged full fealty to the Looneyville liberals.
Wow. Accountability. Excellent!
Talk about government overreach. No one was removed from the meeting so nobody’s rights were violated. This whole situation has been conflated into something when it’s nothing. For lack of a better word, yes this is a witch hunt. They will do anything to take control of this little blue dot in a sea of red.
If anything, Dr. Rockwell has shown integrity and grace, taking ownership of her misstep and apologizing. This sets an extraordinary example for our children.
Enough is enough, people. Let the district get back to the issues that really matter.
No one was removed from the meeting because the county attorney told them it was unconstitutional and that they’d get their butts sued off. Had the attorney not been there to stop them they most certainly would have removed the man from the meeting, violating his first amendment rights. I am most ashamed to see our deputies were prepared to do the same. They are all in desperate need of some constitutional training.
They failed to maintain decorum in order to suppress views they disagree with. They budget is a mess maybe once dove in done with Gainesville they could help the school board out.
No he was not removed , however the issue lies in the fact that one, Casey w
willits seems to have been the one to instigate further by handing off the microphone to the screaming lady… which then incited further shouts from others. Casey Willits should resign! Along with most of the city commission but I digress. The problem lies in the fact that “Jeremy” was made to feel like he HAD to leave, while the school board did nothing but go to recess and the only way things would calm down was if he left so he did. However those that were acting completely out of line by screaming should have been removed as well. What’s good for one is good for all! But no they don’t want those lawsuits either. SMH…
Half the blame is on the Sheriffs department. They should educate their folks on what people can and can’t do. They aren’t there as professional enforcers.
Yes, they should have been removed.
Congo, it would probably follow that other members of the public would have been removed if not for the attorney’s comment to Certain.
They also did nothing to stop the audience from berating the speaker or to restore order. The may not have actively infringed on his First Amendment rights– but they failed to protect them.
If you worked alongside these people day to day. You would truly understand. There is so much mold and filth. In these air conditioning, ducks and ceilings, and they’ve known about this for years, they don’t care about the children’s physical health. And the people that cover all this up are the ones that keep getting promoted.
So when the guy got up and addressed the board like it was his right and was almost kicked out, then when the whole crowd verbally attacked him apparently that was acceptable to the board. Not one of the board members showed integrity with that. I guess if the crowd would have been against them, they would of cleared the room.
The tides are turning. These nutjobs are finally being held accountable.
That guy was there to do nothing but cause trouble. The board has the right to expect civility at its meetings. The felon occupying the oval office has said far worse almost every day.
So your position is that because you personally don’t like the current President, no one need be accountable for their actions. Did I miss something?
Yes the board has the right to expect civility but they didn’t. They over reacted to the person didn’t agree with their POV and they allowed another citizen to rant and rave at the back of the room and said and did nothing.
Fred, I think the attorney’s intervention had much to do with Certain letting it get out of hand until a recess was called.
Are disruptions common at SB meetings, or do they happen at all?
The meeting was already out of hand. Before opening the floor for comments the audience is told that jeering and clapping is not allowed. Certain allowed people to do that repeatedly. The fellow from Newberry gave his comment and went back to his seat. People started jeering at him and he responded and then sat down. That’s when Certain asked the deputy to remove him from the meeting. He got up to leave with the deputies and people started yelling. Then she said the attorney said she shouldn’t have him removed. Certain did nothing to maintain order or to ask anyone else to stop. Instead, someone else asks for a recess and the board left the room with everyone up in arms. She knew what she was doing and she allowed it to happen. Certain clearly violated State and SBAC rules for chairing board meetings.
Of course blame Trump for Alachua County’s government failures. Take your meds
There’s nothing civil about the SBAC.
The guy there wanted only to give his opinion. The crowd was upset because he was not saying what they wanted to hear. They were nothing but rude bullies.
The guy appeared civil, it’s some of the others who looked as if they had just been plucked from a foreign country that is still waiting on civilization to reveal itself.
You voted, the ejected speaker was not civil, hurling a highly personal attack on Rockwell as he finished.
Can’t help yourself with the racist opinions I see. In the past, the Irish and Italians here were depicted as uncivilized sub humans too, so your BS is nothing new.
so sick of these out of control dictators… fix the state’s insurance and property tax problems and stop trying to be everybody’s mama! Christ!
Local governments determine property taxes.
In case you missed it, Archer, Gainesville, and Newberry just voted to raise theirs.
I am in no way condoning anyone’s actions. Death is difficult, and a family’s right to grieve should be respected.
However, on June 3, board member Plavic verbally criticized an employee on the dais. Her criticism of the individual was humiliating and derogatory. People applauded Plavic’s comments, which were based upon her biased analysis of the employee. So to be frank, neither the liberals or conservatives are modeling civic behavior or conflict resolution strategies for our most important citizens; our children.
Both sides should be embarrassed, including our state government. They all need an extended time-out! Enough is enough!
Could you provide more details about what you are referencing?
How can this county, school board, and citizens who support the kind of behavior exhibited at this meeting say that they are inclusive? I guess inclusive only applies to certain people? The rest they can exclude, by mob, from a public forum for expressing a contrary view.
Shame on ASO. Shame on GPD for doing the same at previous city meetings. I expect the city govt and school board to do this though…they are all extremely weak individuals. The LEO’s ought to know better!
The leadership at our local law enforcement agencies and the jackboots who do as they’re told are straight up pathetic people. Y’all better watch out! You’re about to lose support from all sides…
Law Enforcment are bound by upholding state law abd the constitution. They are allowed to disobey a order if it violates state law or the Constitution.
Mr. Kamoutsas – Absolutely the best! You definitely have their attention when you said: “…that Rockwell not apply for renewal of her expired teaching certificate: “Florida educators must uphold the principles of ethical conduct and demonstrate the maturity and professional judgement necessary to work with children. Considering I will not permit you to hold a Florida teaching certificate…”. That and witholding salaries for the Masked Bandit and her ilk was something I didn’t expect (after all – our Gainesville “Gods” are not accustomed to confrontation and consequences). Epic!
When you work around these people for many years, it is disheartening, they are so self absorbed in their own life’s ideologies and salaries.The children are getting shafted.
Amen, get rid of all of them!!
Everything is about race. Chanae Jackson originally posted on Facebook about Hulk Hogan and that’s where Rockwells comment was made. To see that she engages with Chanae Jackson a self identified activists is disturbing. This woman is unhinged. Chanae accused ACSO Kevin Davis of threatening someone at the meeting. Such a crock.
It’s a federal civil rights offense, too. Expect the DOJ and Pam Bondi to get involved…. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸Winning🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
That man who expressed support for MAGA is a dadgum hereo. He is a light shining in a sea of darkness that has become the once-great city of Gainesville..
Enough of this sh!t…He very clearly stated that he is not even a part of “MAGA”. What’s so hard to understand about normal people are just tired of this trash…the school system is corrupt and has totally failed in its mandate. Doesn’t matter if you lean left or right,..the schools have still failed us all.
All of you partisans can go screw yourselves…you miserable creatures
Exactly. So many people are saying, “Well, MAGA is vile, so hating them is okay. If you’re a Republican who’s not MAGA, who cares what they say?”
But the mob is going to label every conservative as “MAGA” – it’s not like there’s any way to prove you’re not MAGA – so her threat was/is a threat to ALL conservatives.
Y’all are both right…my bad! I just get pissed off with politics. It’s so distracting. Much love!
MAGA = .make America great again. What the heck is wrong with that? I think we all want America to be great again. Such ignorance..
DLH, cut the “again” and we agree.
America is better in so many measurable ways, and I’m old enough to remember how. You may notice that Trump keeps lying about how everything is terrible, from crime – way down since the 1970s and up to the oughts – to the economy – Biden got us through Covid without the universally predicted recession and handed him an economy that The Economist labelled “the envy of the world” (and they showed the receipts. Burning coal is stupid – even up into the 60s it was estimated to be causing 200,000 + yearly deaths from lung diseases – as is concentrating on other fossil fuels, cutting research funding, and making it much harder for us to attract and bring in the world’s smartest, as had been our role, pissing off our allies for no reason at all, breaking our word on a regular basis – Trump set up the last trade deals with Mexico and Canada, which he has now thrown out, making other countries look elsewhere for stable trade partners and chains of supply, and even crippling our AI developement by refusing to use sustainable resources for the high energy needed for it, and focusing on manufacturing goods we can no longer compete in while ignoring what we are very good at.
MAGA is Trump, and beyond his character defects, which should be enough, he’s an idiot who doesn’t understand the future and is busy harming America’s future through ignorance.
Jazzman please just stfu about federal politics. You do a disservice each time you inject it into our local discussions. Stop being part of the borg and start being helpful!
Slice, when you start putting that line to the MAGA commentors here I’ll consider it, but absent that I’ll chalk it up to your not being able to handle the truth.
Every person has an a$$hole and opinion! You display both of yours each time you open your mouth.
The only people “thriving” under Biden were the usual freeloaders; many of them living in Alachua County. Even the Racist Certain was crying about this being SBAC’s first budget without the Federal slush fund (ESSER) they were addicted to during the Biden’s spend a thon! You better look up the inflation rates under your hero, Hair Sniffin Joe!
The Economist is a DEI infested rag per their own words:
The Economist Group is committed to championing and fostering diversity, equity and inclusion. We have embedded it in our organisational design, core values and culture. This makes us accountable and stronger as an employer, a company, and a leading source of analysis on international news and world affairs.
Canada and Mexico? They’ll be back in line soon enough. If not, let’s see who they trade with. Hamas? Canada probably.
The mob rule displayed at this meeting falls right in line with the Dem’s desire to keep all criminals in the US. That’s rapists, murderers, drug dealers, terrorists, etc. Check out the list of pardon’s the Autopen signed the last few days before Diaper Joe was carted off:
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-joseph-biden-2021-2025
Relax, you need to get your news from someplace other than Fox.
Infaltion was a worldwide phenomena which was caused by Covid disruptions to the world economies, including supply chains. The US outperformed all but 1 or 2 other advanced economies which they matched by the inflation metric and emerged as the economic “envy of the world”.
“Following the start of the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020, a worldwide surge in inflation began in mid-2021 and lasted until mid-2022. Many countries saw their highest inflation rates in decades. It has been attributed to various causes, including pandemic-related economic dislocation, supply chain disruptions, the fiscal and monetary stimulus provided in 2020 and 2021 by governments and central banks around the world in response to the pandemic, and price gouging…..In 2024, the United States approached target inflation while growing the economy, also known as a ‘soft landing’. As of July 2025, the inflation rate in the U.S. is 2.7%; the Federal Reserve’s “target rate” is 2%…”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%932023_inflation_surge
“Strong economic growth:
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The US has experienced robust GDP growth, exceeding that of other G7 economies, and is projected to continue this trend.
Productivity gains:
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The US is seeing significant productivity increases, with some of the best gains since the personal computer boom.
High per capita income:
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Average wages in the US are higher than in many other developed countries, even in some of the poorest states.
Global economic leadership:
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The US remains the largest global economy and a major player in international trade.
Innovation and technological advancements:
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The US continues to be a leader in technological innovation, which contributes to economic growth and productivity. ..”
Your dismissal of Canada and Mexico as our border nations and long time allies is true MAGA ignorance, so thanks for the display. As well as we are doing – thanks Joe! – we are maybe 5% of the world’s population and need allies and friends. Trump’s needlessly pissing them off, and given we Americans were stupid enough to elect him twice, any of those friends not looking elsewhere for trading partners are as foolish as we are. We don’t need them to cut us off to cripple our economy – a slow down will be enough for you and I to feel it, along with the new inflation from tariffs. Anyone in business – I am – knows that 15% is way past the margin most run on. You know what that means Relax? Manufacturers will raise prices or go out of business.
Immigrants have a lower crime rate than native born Americans, and ICE is indiscriminately arresting undocumented – some of them legally here – immigrants with no criminal records. We need them here for our economy and for specific jobs, since native Americans are not birthing enough kids to maintain it.
When the government creates a forum, it cannot discriminate based on content. You cannot discriminate against this man, even if you disagree with his viewpoint. The attorney tried to stop this circus, but was unsuccessful because of the actions of the board and community. What happened to the old cry,” I may disagree with your Words, but I will defend to the death, Your right to say them? “
It appears that a new standard of behavior is now being required of those people who claim to be leaders of the public school community. I think this is excellent. If you wish to be a teacher, you had better behave on your best. You cannot make other people believe that their child will be treated differently because of family beliefs— or skin color or national background.
I applaud this requirement for the board to answer to the state Board of Education their plans to rectify this extraordinarily poor behavior!
I’m very impressed by the even handedness of the state official
Gordon
The Government is not required to open a forum. When they open a forum (such as allowing citizen input at a school board meeting) they may set parameters such parameters as time and place of the forum.
What they CANNOT DO is exercise “viewpoint discrimination.” That is precisely what acting Chair Certain did, as the state official pointed out. The School Board attorney wisely tried to stop the violation of the First Amendment.
This is so embarrasing. We teach CIVICS in our schools. Board Member Tina Certain may be a fine upstanding person, but her behavior here suggests she should review the Law of the Constitution’s First Amendment and adjust her views and behavior to comply. Otherwise, if she is unable to allow citizen input without viewpoint discrimination she should RESIGN.
Her behavior in this instance appears to cast a cloud over the impartiality of the SBAC. She might wish to resign just to clear that cloud. We need to ask the highest behavior of leaders who hold sway over so many of our children and their families.
Gordon
Gordon, yes a cloud, but I think of a different nature than how many are interpretting it.
Because the ejected speaker ended by launching a highly personal attack on Rockwell and then loudly engaged with other members of the public as he walked down the center aisle to his seat, and thus was the center of the disruption, Certain had some cause to get him out of there that didn’t relate to agreement or disagreement with him. After being 2nd guessed by the attorney, she appeared lost and unsure of what to do. She should have tried to throw out the loud woman in the back, but could have been gun shy due to the attorney.
This was not as bad as it looked regarding the SB, except they lost control to a mob that should have been ejected and should be barred from future attendance. That’s a SB failing to be sure, but not one of blatant favoritism, though it looked that way.
What an idiot this guy is. Perfect fit for the DeSantis regime.
A girl goes to a party, they tell her to leave. She makes a fuss and says i have the right to be here. They think about it and say ya know what, you can stay. She storms out and says I didn’t wanna be here anyway, then calls the law and says they violated my rights lol.🍻💯
The moment he left voluntarily this issue was moot. He wasn’t thrown out. Im surprised the police actually didn’t say they can’t follow that order,he has a right to be here.
No unfortunately you’re missing the point. This was a forum opened by a government unit, and viewpoint discrimination of an INCREDIBLE amount was applied — not only was the man humiliated, he was SENT OUT BY FORCE. The School Board Attorney immediately tried to stop this. Acting Chair Certain appeared to recognize the significance of her violation of the Constitutional right to freedom of speech (the FIRST amendment) but huge damage was already done.
We owe the same rights to all citizens for SPEECH. I may not agree with this or that party, but they have a right to express their views, inside the “time, place and manner” agreed to for any government-provided forum.
Gordon, the ejected guy was not ejected and had his complete say. No one cut him off before he was done and he was humiliated. On the other hand he was pretty personal in his comments and especially to Rockwell. I would think that rules for public comment should not allow that, but then I don’t know if that is a 1st amenment violation. I would hope not. In any case, he said all that.
Personal comments about elected officials are protected speech. The entire point of the 1st amendment is that you can’t be punished by the government for criticizing the government.
Hannah, you can be removed for yelling “fire”, or other incitements to unruly and dangerous behavior. The content of the speech is not important if that effect is the result and the removal not a punishment, but a practical step to maintain order. Public safety trumps the 1st mandment in public meetings.
Have you watched the video? He did not yell fire, so why are you even bringing that up?
Everything he said was protected speech (getting emotional is still protected), and he stayed within his time limit. He then walked to his seat. On the way, someone yelled at him to get out, and he said he was going to stay to listen to the rest of the speakers and sat down. You could say that his response to that person was disruptive, but if it was, the person who yelled at him was disruptive first – but that person wasn’t removed or even asked to be quiet.
At this point, most of the people in the room were muttering and jeering – all disruptive behaviors that are not allowed – but they were never told to be quiet.
He also did not make any aggressive moves – there are multiple eyewitness accounts and videos showing the attorney telling him and the deputies to come forward to the dais after the deputies approached his seat. You can tell by how the deputies are standing when they’re all near the dais that they’re not concerned about physical aggression.
Articulate the force that was used, when he was clearly told he could stay.
If you keep spinning like that, you’re gonna get REALLY dizzy.
An individual cannot be trespassed from a quasi-public forum for engaging in protected activity, such as speech, unless it is substantially disruptive or falls into an unprotected category (Gestewitz v. State, B.M. v. State, Brandenburg v. Ohio). Saying something disliked does not justify a trespass warning if it is protected speech.
A trespass warning is rendered moot if the individual is subsequently told they can stay, as this rescinds the warning and restores authorization to be present (K.M.B. v. State, S.N.J. v. State, P.W. v. State).
The case law confirms that arbitrary trespass warnings in a quasi-public forum, especially for protected speech, are unlawful, and the rescission of a warning negates its legal effect.
Big difference between a privately-hosted party and a government-hosted public meeting.
Girl says, “I have a right to be here”, but that’s incorrect, especially if the property owner or their representative gives them criminal trespass warning.
I have to wonder if the audience was “packed” and/or pre-screened… or if that’s the usual attendance at a SBAC meeting.
Government hosted meeting is quasi-public.
Which means you can not be trespassed arbitrarily as if if was a private party.
The party was open to the public and that’s how the girl got in, for whatever petty reason she was asked to leave unjustly, then she was told she could stay. (At that moment the feeling of “having to leave” is moot), she was told she could stay.
She had a right to be there legally as it was quasi public and not private.
Remember they can’t trespass her for any reason.
There is case law on this my guy, you people talk as if you comprehend complex legal matters but really you are ignorant and lack the capacity.
Why do you think they took recess and then told him he could stay, because the lawyer in the group said “if you kick him out under these circumstances you will have a major problem and lawsuit”.
The act of telling him he could stay, saved their cabooses.
(The girl was right in saying she had a right to be here in a quasi-public forum because she knew she had done nothing to warrant a criminal trespass, to boot if they ask you to leave and then say you can stay, the trespass warning has been negated, case law on this as well.
The criminal trespass warning you speak of is null and void in this situation because it was rescinded when she was told she could stay.)
Analyze this statement and then find applicable Florida case law to support the arguments.
Florida Case Law Supporting Quasi-Public Forum Trespass Arguments
1. K.M.B. v. State, 69 So. 3d 311 (Fla. 4th DCA 2011)
Relevance: This case establishes that in a public or quasi-public setting (e.g., an open business or government facility), actual communication of a trespass warning is necessary to revoke permission to remain. The court held that without such a warning, an individual cannot be guilty of trespass under F.S. § 810.09.
Application: If the government-hosted meeting was open to the public, the individual had a right to be present unless a clear, lawful warning was issued. Arbitrary removal without justification (e.g., for “petty” reasons) would not meet the statutory requirements for trespass.
2. Smith v. State, 778 So. 2d 329 (Fla. 2d DCA 2000)
Relevance: The court emphasized that in a “prior invitation” scenario (e.g., a public or quasi-public forum where entry is initially permitted), a trespass warning must be explicitly communicated by the property owner or authorized agent. Without such notice, an arrest or detention for trespass is invalid.
Application: The statement’s claim that the individual was unjustly asked to leave aligns with this case. If the meeting was a quasi-public forum, the government needed a valid reason (e.g., disruptive conduct) and clear communication to issue a trespass warning.
3. Gestewitz v. State, 34 So. 3d 832 (Fla. 4th DCA 2010)
Relevance: This case held that law enforcement officers lacked authority to detain an individual solely to issue a trespass warning in a public setting unless the warning was lawfully issued by an authorized person. The court reversed convictions stemming from an unlawful detention, citing a violation of Fourth Amendment rights.
Application: If the individual was detained or threatened with arrest for trespass without a valid warning, this case supports the argument that such actions were unlawful, especially in a quasi-public forum. The recess and subsequent permission to stay suggest recognition of this issue.
4. S.N.J. v. State, 17 So. 3d 1258 (Fla. 2d DCA 2009)
Relevance: The court ruled that Florida’s trespass statute requires prior notice before a person can be guilty of trespassing. In a public or quasi-public setting, individuals can only be detained or arrested for trespass if they were first warned to leave and refused.
Application: The statement’s assertion that the trespass warning was nullified when permission to stay was granted is supported here. If the individual was told they could stay, the prior warning was effectively rescinded, negating the basis for a trespass charge.
5. Rozier v. State, 402 So. 2d 539 (Fla. 5th DCA 1981)
Relevance: This case clarified that trespass requires willful intent, meaning the entry or remaining must be knowingly and purposely done. If an individual believes they have a right to be present (e.g., in a quasi-public forum), this may negate the intent required for a trespass conviction.
Application: The individual’s belief that they had a right to be at the government-hosted meeting supports a defense against trespass charges, particularly if no lawful grounds for removal were established.
6. Adderly v. Florida, 385 U.S. 39 (1966)
Relevance: While a U.S. Supreme Court case, this Florida-based decision addressed trespass in a non-public government facility (jail grounds). The Court upheld trespass convictions where protesters were directed to leave a restricted area, emphasizing that the government can regulate conduct in non-public forums if the regulation is reasonable and not aimed at suppressing speech.
Application: This case limits the statement’s broad claim that “they can’t trespass her for any reason.” In a quasi-public forum, the government can issue trespass warnings for legitimate reasons (e.g., disruption), but arbitrary or discriminatory reasons would violate constitutional protections.
7. P.W. v. State, 730 So. 2d 422 (Fla. 5th DCA 1999)
Relevance: The court held that a trespass conviction cannot stand if the individual had a reasonable belief they were authorized to be on the property (e.g., due to invitation or lack of notice). This supports the defense of consent or mistake.
Application: If the individual was initially invited to the public meeting and later told they could stay, this case supports the argument that they lacked the willful intent to trespass, and the rescinded warning further undermines the charge.
Yeah Common, no doubt there should have been a court scheduled hearing to decide what Certain should have done and maybe Jeremy can sue Alachua County, but you overlooked “Arbitrary removal without justification” in the text of your 1st cite, which does not describe Certain’s attempted removal of him.
Now look up “public safety” and “public meetings” and report back.
So the law is one sided now. They can break all the rules they want and make all disgusting comments and have no repercussions. I may not agree with what she said but that doesn’t mean she should lose her job. We all know Alachua County has a target on it and this is part of their way of shooting the dart.
Typical Democrat racism calling the man a white supremacist because he doesn’t agree with them, yelling at him to leave and not letting him speak is a liberal Democrat typical reaction… so sick of democrat racist hate rhetoric. The Democrat party has always been the racist party. They are the party of KKK , Jim-Crow, slavery, violence, assault, burning down buildings, burning
Police cars, assaulting police…
See Jan 6 DLH and your leaders pardoning of those convicted of physically attacking police.
In general on the 2 partys and racism. the recent GOP House Speaker Kevin McCarthy said the following:
“”Look over at the Democrats and they stand up, they look like America. We stand up, we look like the most restrictive country club in America.”
As to the Klan, the most powerful Klan organization in 20th century America was in Indiana in the 1920s, where they had the governor, most of his cabinet, local officiaals and the state legislature. They were Republicans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Klan
Once again the record is stuck and repeating the same feeble lyrics!
How many buildings were burned to the ground, businesses ruined, by “mostly peaceful” demon – strators? Summer of 2020 is a Democratic Highlight reel!
“Approximately 94% of Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests were non-violent. A study by ACLED analyzing over 7,750 demonstrations found that only 6% involved violence, vandalism, looting, or clashes with police. The vast majority of BLM protests were characterized by peaceful demonstrations and non-destructive activity. ”
https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/
Cut and paste the party drivel! Believe what you want but sane people, not indoctrinated in the Dem Party Lies, aren’t believing their crap any longer. November 24 was proof!
Anyone with a TV watched the BLM riots all summer long. Better check your “peaceful” definition with ole’ Faye!
One has to wonder if this latest SBAC “gathering” is a sign of times to come for GNV and AC.
Dems, what you term “party drivel” is what most informed humans – no, not you – call reality. We know you and most here prefer whatever MAGA BS somebody pulls from their butt, but I usually look it up with sources with known addresses and enough respect for others to retract errors.
Maybe you’ve heard of Time magazine.
“Armed Conflict Location & Event Data (ACLED) is a non-profit organization registered in the United States that specializes in the real-time collection, analysis, and mapping of data on political violence and protest events around the world. It was founded in 2005 as a research initiative by political scientist Clionadh Raleigh. The organization codes information on events such as armed clashes, demonstrations, riots, and strategic developments, including the date, location, actors, fatalities, and event type. As of 2022, the dataset includes more than 1.3 million recorded events[1] and offers updates through a global team of researchers and local partners…”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Conflict_Location_and_Event_Data
“ACLED is an independent, impartial conflict monitor providing real-time data and analysis on violent conflict and protest in all countries and territories across the world.”
https://acleddata.com/
Makes me sick part of my tax dollars go to funding these particular school board member salaries. Unfortunately most Americans who work outside of a court house or don’t wear a uniform either do not understand or willfully disregard constitutional amendments. Make them pay Kamoutsas!
Are you on dope!
Couple of questions: Who is “Jeremy”? Does he live in Alachua County? Does he have kids in the public school system? BTW he was indeed allowed his time to speak his opinion. Not threatened with removal until after his time was up and he was becoming loud and disruptive. And he was not removed.
Actually now I do know his name and he does have a kid in elementary school. Just was making sure that he had the right to speak, albeit inappropriately at times. Once again he was not removed from the meeting even after going over his time and becoming disruptive.
Everyone has a right to speak. But if you’re going to insist that someone be a parent, why aren’t you calling out Casey Willits and Faye Williams, who do not have children in our schools?
It does not matter if he has children in the Alachua County Schools. I HAVE NEVER HAD CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, BUT I HAVE PAID TAXES EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST 46 YEARS FOR OTHERS TO ATTEND SCHOOL, AS PART OF MY PROPERTY TAXES YOU IMBECILE
Faye Williams doesn’t have children in the school system, she’s a lesbian activist trouble maker she the one who should have been removed
Is she Cryptkeeper Certain’s lover? That would explain a lot.
“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
― William F. Buckley
Putting aside the unmentioned fact – in either the Kamoutsas post or this reporting – that the speaker who was at first thrown out levelled a highly personal attack on Rockwell that might be considered out of bounds – I don’t know the rules for public comment – and then claimed the center of attention while walking back to his seat by loudly engaging with other members of the public – this was handled very poorly, was out of control, and if he was ejected, there were several others worse than him who should have been.
I don’t know SOP – if there is any – for the Sec of Ed to handle something like this, so I withold judgement about his actions, except for his taking her teaching certificate. That is over the top and out of proportion to the sin and hopefully his is not the last word on it and is appealable. From other sources Rockwell has been noted as a committed and caring member of her profession and taking her certificate will also be a loss to local kids and schools.
Lastly, I think it likely that how the SB screwed up was not in showing favoritism – there was a reason to first remove him due to his continuing to command center stage after his highly personal statement – but in totally losing control to a mob. Certain looked weak and lost, not as a ring leader for what followed, and was 2nd guessing her own actions after the lawyer told her not to eject the speaker. Sure, that is a failing, but not the same as purposefully taking sides in a near riot. Those who can be identified and acted so poorly should be barred from attending future public meetings for some set time – at a minimum.
This is false and misleading info. Curtain did not call for his removal although she should have. He moved toward the Board in an aggressive manner. This man was almost certainly a plant.
There are multiple comments on Facebook from people who said they were at the meeting to support Rockwell but wanted others to know he went toward the dais because the attorney called him up there.
Correct. Anyone who thinks otherwise can watch the video of this circus act at the link below (hurry before it is deleted by ACPS):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hptjcEiAXww
Parents: Save your children who go to school to learn the “4 R’s” and enroll them in a private school immediately! You teach them acceptable social skills and morals at home yourself!
I watched most of the video including all of Plavic’s comments and public comments.
Fine to send your kids to private schools. Why are we all paying that bill?
What meeting were you watching? Who directed the deputy to remove him and then changed her tune on removal only after a lawyer said not too.
WOW! If all the political stories had that kinda response. Once again the proof is in the voting, ya vote in a bunch of looney liberals and here’s what happens.
You either agree with EVERYTHING they say & believe or face a wrath of hate and bigotry that leaves you feeling soiled.
Next November vote the useless members out of office. Don’t make the same mistake twice.
Is a great idea! Hurt em in their pocketbooks- this usually works!
Speaking up at a school board meeting, for most citizens, is an intimidating experience anyway. Speaking up with a mob loudly opposing would be much worse.
It should be no surprise that conservative citizens in this county know that they will not be heard respectfully, and are reluctant to speak out in a confrontational setting like a school board meeting.
I am grateful for the free state of Florida intervening to clean up the pockets of viewpoint discrimination that still have a tight grip on Alachua County and Gainesville. I really don’t understand why voters continue to vote blue here…the results have been so bad, for so long…
Concerned, “Jeremy” was heard fully, though “respect” diminished quickly as his purposeful disresect toward the board and Rockwell became obvious. Yes, he had that right, exercised it, was heard fully, and was not removed. Macho claims to wanting to castrate the Newberry educator now in jail aside, his hostility was mirrored by many of those in attendance. By the way, an earlier speaker respectfully presented the same ideas without the name calling and hostility and was received without incident.
Hahaha, they’re so stupid. To think they’re in charge of the schools. “Our meeting” 🤣 and willits handing her the microphone to show she was ten times more the idiot than the guy she was upset about. Lady you just had a white man use you as a pawn 🤣
The officer should have said, respectfully, we can’t remove this man because he said something you don’t like, that is not a threat to public safety or this meeting.
He has a right to be here and if he actually does something that we can legally take action on we will.
Common, he made personal an incendiary comments and then continued to be the center of a brewing storm by loudly interacting with others there while standing center court. He should have been removed then – after he had his say, and so should have been the loud woman who was yelling from the back.
Nice editorial.
He could have said the school board sucks and that would have been “incendiary”, which is still protected speech.
Incendiary in the context you use it means “hey lets storm the board members right now and beat them up”, thats speech worthy of removal, not i think you are a disgusting person lol.
He calmly walked back to his seat while being heckled, he took a moment to respond to the hecklers and said nothing crazy and sat down.
He should be removed for this?
This is why we don’t have any true civil rights lawyers in this county anymore, because civil rights have long afore been seen as a hassle to municipal operations and integrity.
I think I might stick around and drain this swamp, this is madness what continues to happen around here.
Comment, the proof is in the pudding, and while there were few who would have followed his urgings in support of him, enouh in the crowd reacted as he wished in being offended by his words as to start a possibly dangerous situation. Certain rightly tried to diffuse it by having him removed, not as punishment for his opinions but to shut down the mob scene developing. His rights were not at issue – he had his full say and then some – but maintaining peace during the meeting. You may have noticed that Certain did not show the type of personality to loudly and forcefully take the meeting back over by the strength of her presence – nor is that a requirement in normal procedures for elected officials – and so acted with authority, stupidly countered by the attorney.
🧿🧿🧿STOP The Witch Hunt NOW !
Slimy, HYPOCRITES.
Giving Death Threats to Rockwell & ACSB for a FB Post.
Dr. Rockwell APOLOGIZED.
GET OVER IT SLIMY, maggots !!!!
IF YOU DO NOT LIKE ACSB PULL YOUR CHILDREN OUT & GOTO A PRIVATE SCHOOL & PAY FOR YOUR CHILDRENS EDUCATION !
STOP ATTACKING TEACHERS, ACSB & Dr. Rockwell !!!!!
John 8:7
NIV
” When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, ” Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her. ”
– John 8:7
No one is attacking teachers; I agree with pulling children and associated funding from this ACPS cesspool!
Each parent who doesn’t want their child indoctrinated into the world of “liberals” needs to pull them (and their funding) out ASAP!
Protect them from this Administratively bloated school system and the incompetent and the biased School Board running. Their only focus is running a daycare for the future criminals of Alachua County.
Fine, but tax payers shouldn’t be paying for it.
Based on that comment, tax payers who do not have children in school should not pay school taxes period, right?
Then again, that is not how FL tax law works, so parents have a right to take the school voucher and run away from ACPS as fast as they can to a private school and spend their tax money on their child.
That doesn’t follow Gimmee. The government provides several high budget services and functions which we all support through taxes., public schools being one that daes back to our founding. If you want to use an alternative go ahead, but the states has not been obligated to pay for that until now. The reason is simple. The right has been against public education for a long time and uses this to try and end it. Hopefully voters catch on to the ruse and stop those giving tax dollars to Trump and Soros to send their grand kids to private schools, while not providing enough for poor people to do the same.
The ‘death threat tripe’ is a fabrication. The emails have been investigated. They do not exist.
What a bunch of N FL Karens. 🤮
Wow! What a statement! I know you are talking about the Liberal Mob at said “gathering!”
If not, it’s OK too; soon ACPS will be broke monetary wise, not just morally! More parents concerned with their child’s safety and education will pull them out of ACPS’s septic tank and move them to a private school where the goal is education, not Daycare for delinquents!
Hey, it’s the GOP goal N FL and has been for a long time. “End public education.”
If that Parent had said something similar to Councilwoman’s statement about anyone of color all we would hear would be charges of Racist, supremist and worse, which we still heard anyway as the auto defense to anytime a Double Standard is Applied. So on the grounds A Parent would be held accountable so should a member of Council
To Monte:
✨Please clarify what statement you are referring too & from who specifically ?
Thank you.
When GHS launched its Health Occupations magnet program over two decades ago, I served as mathematics department chair and a member of the oversight committee. We reviewed candidates with care, and ultimately selected Janine Plavac to lead the initiative. She didn’t just meet expectations—she set the gold standard. Today, her program remains one of the County’s proudest achievements.
Mrs. Plavac entered that role with a strong background in nursing and a rare drive to give back to her community. The result? Generations of skilled professionals now support our hospitals and clinics—thanks to her. And yet, when she was appointed by the Governor—an honor reserved for those few who truly earn it—she was met with venom from board members more concerned with petty power plays than public service. The agenda that night wasn’t truth or accountability. It was identity politics and ideological gatekeeping.
This wasn’t scrutiny. It was a spectacle. You don’t tear down a cornerstone of educational excellence because she refuses to join your echo chamber. You defend her. You thank her. And to those who chose disgrace over dignity—how dare you.
Jeremy interrupted the Trim portion of the meeting several times by shouting out questions prior to citizen comment.
Another Plavic supporter made comments without incident prior to Jeremy’s disruptive behavior. During his two minutes at the podium Jeremy became more emotional and aggressive as spoke, members of the audience reacted with muttering and displeasure at him. As he left the podium and walked to his seat he loudly made several statements, the meeting was disrupted and a sheriff deputy approached and began asking him to leave. After that chaos of shouting and agitated discussions.
Our Education commissioner should gather the facts instead of blatantly spinning and politicizing the disruption by a citizen. Regardless of point of view, rules apply and rule breakers must suffer consequences.
Simple affidavits from sworn officers as to the actions will clearly show our Education Commissioner is gravely misinformed and his accusations invalid.
Guest, that is an accurate description of what happened. The incident did not show bias, but the chair trying to remove a speaker who was disrupting the to that point peaceful meeing, including commemts by at least one other speaker who favored Rockwell gone. Once the attorney wrongly told the chair it was a 1st amendment issue – he essentially yelled “fire” – she probably felt powerless to remove other speakers who reacted to him and who should have also been removed. Temporarily closing down the meeting was her remaining option, which she did.
So why does the audio stop when Faye Williams continues her ridiculous rant? I thought this was supposed to unedited video?
The school board cut the audio at that point.
Went to recess at that moment?
The video is on the school district’s YouTube page and has not changed since it was broadcast during the meeting. What you see is what people who were watching it online saw during the meeting. If you have questions about missing audio, they should be directed to the school district.