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Forbes names the University of Florida a “New Ivy” for its output of outstanding graduates

Press release from University of Florida

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – The University of Florida has been recognized by Forbes as one of 10 public “New Ivies” for producing exceptional and highly employable graduates. UF is the only Florida institution on the list.

“The University of Florida is committed to excellence, and we are producing some of the most incredible graduates in the nation,” said Mori Hosseini, chair of the UF board of trustees. “We know that employers need the kind of skills our students are building here. Forbes’ recognition is a great honor, and the best is yet to come.” 

According to Forbes, “employers are souring on Ivy League grads” and seeking out new talent from universities outside of the “Ancient Eight” institutions (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, the University of Pennsylvania, Columbia, Dartmouth, and Cornell). For a variety of reasons, 42% of hiring managers are now more likely to hire public university graduates than they were five years ago, Forbes reported. And 37% of individuals with hiring authority said that state universities are doing better than they were five years ago in preparing job candidates. 

“This new recognition underscores UF’s commitment to being both elite and practical,” said UF president Ben Sasse. “The University of Florida does incredible work, and we are becoming a no-doubt-about-it leader in higher education at a time when too many institutions are losing public trust. We reject the false choice between education that enriches and education that prepares – we want both. We want Gators to engage life’s most enduring questions and solve today’s most pressing challenges.” 

Forbes developed its lists of 10 public and 10 private “New Ivies” that are shining in the higher education landscape and turning out “smart, driven graduates.”

“We are undoubtedly preparing our students at UF for a fast-evolving workforce and teaching them how to succeed in the industries of the future,” said UF Provost J. Scott Angle. “Things are changing in higher education, and UF is at the forefront of that evolution.”

The conclusion Forbes came to in its research was that “great state schools and ascendant private ones are turning out hungry graduates; the Ivies are more apt to turn out entitled ones. And in creating the latter, the Ivies have taken the value they’ve spent centuries creating — a degree that employers craved — and, in just a few years, done a lot to forfeit it.”

As for the methodology behind making the new lists, Forbes first disqualified the traditional Ivies and examined 1,743 colleges with at least 4,000 students. Using 2022 admissions data, Forbes then screened for schools with high standardized test scores (the New Ivies boast average scores of 1482 on the SAT and 33 on the ACT) and used “a selectivity yardstick” (looking at institutions with a less-than-20% admission rate for private schools and a less-than-50% admission rate for public schools). From there, Forbes took the 32 remaining schools and surveyed its hiring manager respondents about each one.

“Employers know what they are looking for, and UF graduates have it,” Angle said. “We are proud to be an ‘Ivy,’ as we continue to bring the most high-performing, outstanding students to our campus year after year.”

  • Let’s hope that the UF graduates don’t enter the world as smug, self serving elites like so many from upper academia.

  • Real merit still matters there.

    Unlike Old Ivy where family connections and “donations” — and now skin color and bedroom antics matter most.

  • Don’t worry, DeSantis is hell bent on making UF a Christofacist university. Don’t expect it’s popularity and academic achievements to stay around very long.

      • Of course not but glad you asked so he is shown for the lying bigot he/she is.

      • DeSantis and the state GOP has meddled in everything from curriculum to faculty hiring and tenure and banning students over the last several years in ways not previously seen. Many of the faculty are not happy and many will leave if other options present themselves and it will be harder to hire the better ones UF has been getting. I naively thought Sasse might have the stature – he was a US Senator – to tell DeSantis and state pols to back up and stay out of his territory but he has smaller cojones than Fuchs had and between his appearances on Fox News he hides out under the stadium – or somewhere – and let’s the ignorant vandals trash the place. You think New Colleges ratings have crashed – they have – but now the same crew is working on UF. It will not end well.

          • I was at UF while the Johns Committee was still in operation but in decline. It did attack individual faculty members but it did not try to change the curriculum or tenure. Yes, there have been other right wing attacks on UF before, but none trying to politicize the classroom like this.

          • You must be speaking about a completely different part of the university than the one I worked in.

            And what changes have been made to tenure are focused on trying to reduce the endemic problem of senior faculty doing pretty much nothing while ‘retired in place’ on the state payroll.

          • Sure they are! Politics will have nothing to do with it given the benign, fair, and non-partisan character of the governor and his appointed board.

    • CJ, take your bigotry back to New England or California where the antiChrist is embraced. It’s not welcome here in Free Florida.

    • “Christofacist?” LOL, as opposed to rabid atheism? You people act like you have no idea this nation was founded by Dietst and “Christofacists”. You know, “one nation, under God?”

        • ¡Jajajajaja, Jajajaja! ¡Es claro que no sepas el tema de historia! ¡Idiota!

          • Es claro que NO SABES la regla de la gramática que estipula que si algo es claro en la primera cláusula, se usa el indicativo en la segunda: Es claro que NO SABES. Si existe duda en la primera cláusula, entonces se usa el subjuntivo: No creo que SEPAS…

          • It is downright rude to post in a foreign
            language to a group of English speakers.
            But then there’s the benefit of not having any idea what you said. Si?

        • Yes, as a matter of fact I DO know my history.

          “as in the cases of John Jay, George Washington, and Edward Rutledge), Presbyterianism (as in the cases of Richard Stockton and the Rev. John Witherspoon), and Congregationalism (as in the cases of John Adams and Samuel Adams). Other Protestant groups included the Society of Friends (Quakers), the Lutherans, and the Dutch Reformed. Three Founders—Charles Carroll and Daniel Carroll of Maryland and Thomas Fitzsimmons of Pennsylvania—were of Roman Catholic heritage.”

          https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Founding-Fathers-Deism-and-Christianity-1272214

          It would appear it’s you butterfly, who don’t know your history.

          • Thanks for the link:

            “…..But the widespread existence in 18th-century America of a school of religious thought called Deism complicates the actual beliefs of the Founders. Drawing from the scientific and philosophical work of such figures as Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Isaac Newton, and John Locke, Deists argued that human experience and rationality—rather than religious dogma and mystery—determine the validity of human beliefs. In his widely read The Age of Reason, Thomas Paine, the principal American exponent of Deism, called Christianity “a fable.” Paine, the protégé of Benjamin Franklin, denied “that the Almighty ever did communicate anything to man, by…speech,…language, or…vision.” Postulating a distant deity whom he called “Nature’s God” (a term also used in the Declaration of Independence), Paine declared in a “profession of faith”:

            Thus, Deism inevitably subverted orthodox Christianity. Persons influenced by the movement had little reason to read the Bible, to pray, to attend church, or to participate in such rites as baptism, Holy Communion, and the laying on of hands (confirmation) by bishops. ….

            …Although orthodox Christians participated at every stage of the new republic, Deism influenced a majority of the Founders. The movement opposed barriers to moral improvement and to social justice. It stood for rational inquiry, for skepticism about dogma and mystery, and for religious toleration. Many of its adherents advocated universal education, freedom of the press, and separation of church and state. If the nation owes much to the Judeo-Christian tradition, it is also indebted to Deism, a movement of reason and equality that influenced the Founding Fathers to embrace liberal political ideals remarkable for their time.”

      • “Under god” was added to the pledge of allegiance in the 1950’s. There’s no mention of God in the Constitution. And the democracy/republic the founders established is a far cry from the fascist/authoritarian regime the white Christian nationalists are working on.

      • Onle look at Columbia University and we have nothing else to say. They fall under the weight of their own results.

      • You might want to check the dates on when this was added to the pledge.

    • It’s been around strong for a very long time, and it’s only getting better, as evidenced by this well deserved distinction. Go Gators!

  • So Forbes made an unvalidated assumption that is entirely unproven which resulted in the Ivies being disqualified. Moroever, for some unstated reason, those schools with 4k or less students were not considered. Intriguing… And the UF officials still felt compelled to bow for this great honor… we sure this is not some sort of modern day candid camera going on here?

    • “Forbes surveyed nearly 300 subscribers to its Future of Work newsletter, with three-fourths of respondents holding direct hiring authority. Among those in charge of employment decisions, 33 percent said they are less likely to hire Ivy League graduates than they were five years ago.” (msnbc)

    • You do realize that UF had risen to the top(5) before the politicians began meddling, right? This is Ben Sasse trying to take credit for something he had nothing to do with. He’s been doing a lot of that lately, along with lying about admins he doesn’t like. I’m not going to blame everything on him, I’ll throw some shade at his 500K a year “consultants” who don’t even live in Gainesville. If anything, they’ve lowered the reputation of UF.

  • What a Croc. School does nothing but turn a profit. Like taking candy from babies.

  • My grandson is a graduated in engineering and chose a position after being offered several

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