Gainesville City Commission rescinds “partial restoration” vote, decides to repair Thelma Boltin Center

Gainesville City Commission discusses Thelma Boltin Center on December 7, 2023

BY JENNIFER CABRERA

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – At the December 7 Gainesville City Commission meeting, the Commission voted to spend no more than $1.5 million on repairing the Thelma Boltin Center, rescinding their previous vote to do a “partial restoration” for over $5 million.

The agenda item before the Commission was authorization of a Task Assignment Amendment with Wannemacher Jensen Architects for the design of the “partial restoration” plan previously approved by the Commission.

Early Public Comment

Four people spoke against the “partial restoration” plan during Early Public Comment, with most preferring the option, previously rejected by the Commission, of repairing the roof and other parts of the building for an estimated $450,000 instead of the $469,000 design contract that was on the agenda.

In between comments from members of the public, Mayor Harvey Ward said, “The $450,000 option is not even a real option… If it were real, it would be awesome. But that number is from a year and a half ago, at this point. It isn’t real.” He later added, “And my guess, not being a professional in that department, is that once it gets opened up, we’re going to find that there’s more money to be spent than we are sure of at this point.”

Waite: “The building would continue to fall apart”

Following a presentation about the history of the project, Commissioner Bryan Eastman asked whether the $450k option would correct the structural deficiencies, and Betsy Waite, Director of Wild Spaces and Public Places, said they won’t know until the City hires an engineer and an architect to look into it further. She added that it would just put a new roof on the building, but “the building would continue to fall apart.”

Commissioner Reina Saco pointed out that the $450k would not pay for the required design work and that the deterioration would continue, even with a new roof. She said she still favored the “partial restoration” option. 

Commissioner Ed Book said that although he had previously voted for the “partial restoration” option, it seemed that community input had “coalesced” around the repair option. He said that repairing the building would allow the City to open it sooner and would also put money back in the Wild Spaces and Public Places pot for other projects. He said he was ready to make that motion, but Ward asked him to wait until other commissioners had a chance to talk.

Commissioner Bryan Eastman said he was concerned that if they just repaired the building, it might “get to a point that it is now dilapidated, and there’s really no other option but to demolish it because we’ve not dealt with the underlying issues that caused all of those problems to begin with.” Saco said she agreed with “everything Commissioner Eastman said.”

Ward asked Waite about the claim made by members of the public that Wannemacher Jensen doesn’t do historic preservation, and she listed several prominent projects they had done, adding, “So they’ve received many awards of Florida, and they’re nationally acclaimed, but they do have a lot of experience in historic preservation.”

Ward: “We need to be thinking about this as stewardship, not as a patch”

Ward said that a future commission would need to deal with the building again if it were repaired: “At some point, we have to say the building was built with the best materials that could be had in 1943, during a war, and built with architectural and engineering standards that perhaps were not up to modern understandings, in a floodplain–or something like a floodplain. Those things are not going to be fixed by us fixing rafters, in the short term. We need to be thinking about this as stewardship, not as a patch, because those are not the same things.”

About ten people spoke during public comment, with most split between full restoration and repair. 

Motion to repair the building with a cap of $1.5 million

Book made a motion to repair the existing building with a funding cap of $1.5 million and pursue historic funding options for grant money to fully restore the building. He added a third part to rescind the previous vote for the “partial restoration.” After further discussion, he added a fourth part to send a letter to the County to see if they would contribute to the project from their Wild Spaces and Public Places funds. 

After a voice vote, Eastman said the vote was 4-3, and Saco said the vote was 3-4, so Ward took a roll-call vote. The final vote was 4-3, with Saco, Ward, and Commissioner Casey Willits in dissent.

Construction contract

They moved on to the second Thelma Boltin agenda item, and Saco immediately moved staff’s recommendation, which was to approve a construction contract for the “partial restoration” work to D. E. Scorpio Corporation. Ward stopped her, pointing out that the previous motion hadn’t passed, and Saco responded, “What? No.” When told that Eastman had voted for Book’s motion, she said, “Seriously? Okay.”

City Manager Cynthia Curry said they still needed to authorize hiring an architect to do the work, but Commissioners Eastman and Cynthia Chestnut suggested referring that to staff to bring back a revised Scope of Work instead of making a decision.

Chief Operating Officer Andrew Persons said the commission could approve the proposed construction contract because “they’re going to be implementing the revised scope when we bring that back from the architect.”

After public comment, Chestnut made a motion to approve staff’s recommendation to award the construction management contract to Scorpio. The motion passed 6-1, with Willits in dissent.

  • The headline should read: “Gainesville Commission wasting more tax payer money on Center that hardly anyone uses.”

  • Eastman knows not to upset his Duckpond neighborhood constituents. They have some real Karens there.

      • Eastman’s hood? There used to be an organization called “Daughters of the Confederacy.” Maybe these individuals should be called “Karens for Chaos.”

  • Ridiculous. It should be allowed to decay, remove the roof and wood floor, then used as a brick shell. Events can still be held there.

    • They’ve let developers wipe out all the rest of Gainesville’s history, what’s one more historic site?

  • Voting to buy new tires for a car that doesn’t run demonstrates, again, why the City needs to step away from history preservation projects requiring anything more than a ‘historic place/event’ plaque and ribbon to cut.

    • Sounds like you’ve never visited the Thomas Center or the Hippodrome, both once decaying buildings which are now high functioning and centers of civic pride.

      • Neither the Hipp nor the TC were built as wartime temporary structures at best. Read the engineer’s survey.

          • I found it. It seems to me that further investigation should not be difficult or expensive. It would include the etymologist Tom the engineer recommends, removing the entire ceiling to aid visibility, and investigating the cmu columns for reinforcement by drilling and use of metal detectors. Tom’s comment about the existing foundation almost certainly not being up to supporting added steel structure doesn’t mean that new footing pads could not be added. That all goes to the cost and value of what is being saved. Tom does not state that the building is substandard for that day, but typical of that day, and he correctly bases some of his conclusions on those know standards. “They don’t build them the way they used to” and engineering wise, that’s a good thing.

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          • May as well just build a whole new building, you are ignorant to the issues and have a skewed perspective on literally everything I have seen your name attached to. I actually feel bad for you because you genuinely think you are correct most of the time. You aren’t and you are clearly off the deep end. I pity you.

      • The elevator has been broken for weeks at the Hipp. So much for high functioning.

  • Dateline 2031: The Commission debates whether to hire an architect and engineer to create a plan to save the last remaining wall fragment of the Thelma Boltin Center.

  • Anyone who has been inside that decrepit excuse for a building will know it isn’t worth fixing. 1.5 million will turn into 3.8 million due to cost overruns, asbestos removal, other money draining issues.
    Leave it to the city commission to WASTE tax payers money. Ya’ll voted for them, deal with it.

  • Don’t these so called ‘servants of the people’ realize we are flat broke and in debt because of their inability to prioritize the need for basic services vs. their social engineering BS.

  • Yet the road that goes past our police station is dotted with potholes from University all the way to 39th. This commision and all the ones since I have been here in 2007 have been nothing but spend happy tyrants who only listen to their commie echo chamber.

  • This is a want, not a need–a luxury that the city can’t afford. If we are being completely honest, the “historical significance” of this place is really just sentimentality for a very, very small percent of the city.

    There is no real architectural or historical significance to this building. The building served its original function well, and I’m glad that it was able to provide services to our WWII veterans, but it’s not reasonable or practical to just keep this building around for eternity as a result.

    If this building is truly so valuable to so many people as claimed, then there should be no problem raising private funds to renovate and repair. A thousand people giving an average of $1,500 each-that’s $1.5M–should be no problem, if this place means as much as the special interest groups claim.

    Preserving history is important, but the City is broke due to poor leadership and we have to be selective with how we spend our limited funds.

    • You mean you actually want the usual suspects that dominate the Gville Sun and Iguana press corp to step up and put money up for something other than suing GRU, the new Governance and its customers

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