Novack: Gainesville has changed for the worse
Letter to the editor
I lived in Gainesville for 10 years in the ’70s & early ’80s. I left for Miami because of employment. For many years, all I wanted to do was to move back “home.” In 1999, I did so.
In Miami, I had been asked, many times, what‘s so great about Gainesville? I would reply that it has no traffic reports, lots of trees, and it’s a pleasure to drive around such a beautiful city.
Boy, has that changed. Yes, there are now traffic reports. However, they don’t matter. I still just spend a lot of time staring at red lights. Not just the light that I am facing, but red lights for ALL directions. I sit at these lights staring at three other drivers, facing me. No one can move because all the lights are red. The bicycle lanes are moving because the few cyclists that use the lanes don’t stop for red lights. Instead of more bike lanes, how about computerizing the lights?
Many times, I have stopped at a red light, with green lights for the cross traffic. One problem: there was no cross traffic. The light was red for me and green for others, but often, there were no others. I often have seen one car in the left turn lane, but with the green turning arrow staying on for at least six or more cars that were not there. All the other drivers at this time just sat there looking at red lights and useless green turn arrows.
There are different traffic patterns in rush hour vs. 11 p.m. at night. However, those who know how to computerize traffic lights seem to have no idea that traffic is different at 2 a.m. vs. 5 p.m.
The potholes are displacing the few remaining smooth portions of the roads. Please stop trying to patch the problem. Your elevated patches are worse than most of the potholes you attempt to “fix.” If you insist on patching vs. fixing, how about leaving the patches smooth and even with the surrounding road? Better yet, how about actually paving the roads? I’d rather have one smooth repaved road than any number of your patched roads.
I love the new patches that I see. Rather than leaving a smooth road, they leave an elevated mound with, often, a sign alerting you to bumps in the road. Bumps that incompetence created. SW 91st Street, SW 23rd, and 39th Avenue are just a few such places. Put away the signs warning about uneven roads, and properly fix the roads. Have you recently driven on 83rd, adjacent to Sante Fe College? It is more of an obstacle course than a drivable road – enough said.
The City and County’s solution: build more bike lanes. That way, more people can bike rather than drive. A good theory with no basis in reality. I would love to know the ratio of bike lane miles to the few people who use them. Have you noticed the recent uptick in road rage? More bike paths won’t alleviate drivers’ frustrations. Drivable roads and synchronized traffic lights should.
The Tree City–no longer. The most endangered species in our city are trees. It is amazing how developers can cut down every tree in a patch of woods, only to be replaced by the UGLY barracks they call apartments. I also don’t understand why GRU’s wood-burning plant seems to be such a major financial mistake. With all the trees that are cut down each week, GRU should have enough fuel for generations to come. How is cutting down more trees going to decrease the use of fossil fuels?
Gainesville is also known as the Purple Heart city. Very appropriate with the injured state the city is in.
Harvey Novack, Gainesville
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Someone told me the City of Gainesville is responsible for programming all of the lights in Alachua County. IF true that agreement needs to be revoked.
There is no synchronization of lights and no distinction between peak and off peak demand. And it doesnt take a genius to know that lights need to be synchronized in the morning *into* town, and redone in the afternoon for those leaving town to the hamlets.
*They* like to talk about climate change, but they have us all just sitting at red lights. Whoever is responsible for this in the city should be fired yesterday.
That was one of Poe’s “promises” when he was running for mayor.
As always, he was a liar because he never did anything to synchronize the lights.
Someone will get killed on NW 6th & NW 23rd one day because the light will cycle normally and follow that up with a 2 – 4 sec. change. They’re aware of it and still haven’t fixed it. I’ve got M & M on speed dial.
If you are referring to NW 6th St. “off hours” (i.e. after ~10 pm until sometime in the morning), that’s because it works on an “always red” methodology that cycles when it detects oncoming traffic. I noticed this many years ago and it was explained to me by the person/dept. in charge of it. Personally I find it unsettling because I can’t predict the changes accurately but now I notice what is going on. I don’t know they think there is anything to be ‘fixed’.
I was here in the 70’s and early 80’s. A lot less development. Just like the rest of Florida. Alachua County has 130,000 more people now, than in 1980, basically another entire city of Gainesville. Florida’s has more than doubled. You can’t stop development, especially with the growth policies put in place since Governor Bush. The policies were far different in the 70’s and early 80’s. The university keep taking more and more development off the tax rolls through a combination of state ownership and apartment buildings which are dedicated to service UF students. It kind of limits the amount of money available for infrastructure. Alachua County tried to pass a 3/4 cent surtax specifically for road improvement (would have been split between the County and Cities). It failed. When the latest surtax passed, a smaller percentage is being used for roads. Gainesville is no more frozen in time than the rest of Florida. If you really want to see change – look at St. Johns County. 51,000 in 1980 and over 300,000 now. Their budget – set by a Republican County Commission, dwarfs that in Alachua County. They have the tax base to do it and pay for infrastructure.
FYI, the road tax initiative failed not because people didn’t want the roads fixed. It was defeated because 90% of it was to be used for rapid transit (buses) and bike lanes. The City Commission would get most of it due to population and was totally disinterested in road repair.
The red traffic lights keep you in town where they want you spending money!
Spot on , Salu’, completely on point
Prior to 2010, Alachua County instated a 2 cents per gallon gasoline tax that falls into the perimeter of what the State allows counties to do. Basically, that tax Is only supposed to be used for maintaining and build roads. Of course, when that windfall occurred, they took money away from the normal budget of the Road and Bridge department and spread it out into other parts of the County budget. Within the past two years, the County hoodwinked the people of this county into voting for a 1/2 sales tax increase for the use of improving our roads. That’s what they ran their campaign on. In fact, much of the road sales tax includes a majority of the money’s use going to Wild Spaces & Public Places. Of course, our county government will now say that it was plainly written on the election ballot. I am all for saving our wild areas. I just don’t think our county government does its business in an honest way. Government’s main responsibilities are to build and maintain the infrastructure and to ensure our safety. This county falls very short on each of these issues.
Regarding the tree situation, as a homeowner, do not even think about cutting a tree down in your yard that is more than a certain diameter without getting permission from the county. They will come out and tell you that it will be necessary to plant 4 or 5 new trees to replace the one you’re taking down. But the developers are given carte blanche to cut every tree down on a property and plant only a few trees, compared to the hundreds they destroy. Can you imagine Haile plantation today if they took out all the trees when they developed it?
Let’s just keep electing these bozos.
Yet, despite being retired and reasonably comfortable financially, you haven’t moved back to Miami, or… to anywhere else. Gainesville must not be too bad. Some people just love to complain about everything, and this website proves that day after day.
Conrad,
It’s not that easy to simply pack up and move.
This “website” fortunately gives our citizens an opportunity to express one’s opinions.
Unfortunately our feckless city and county commissioners cause many problems for its citizens.
To sit back in your cushy recliner and chastise those who speak their minds is akin to a jellyfish floating in the current. Unfortunately our city and county is growing jellyfish exponentially.
The never ending development in Florida is a sad story. They won’t stop developing until they destroy the last square inch of land. It may provide temporary economic support but in the long run it will degrade the quality of life (high crime, long waits, more rules, less freedom). I am astonished that there is no limit to development. Street lights are controlled by 4 or 5 nerds at the public works department off of 39th ave and they do a poor job. Only way to alleviate traffic is to increase capacity of the roads and the city of Gainesville does not want to do that.
I wonder if a class action suit against the city for unfair taxation would be possible. By purposely mismanaging the traffic lights it increases everyone’s fuel consumption. With one of the highest gas tax assessments in the state they effortlessly collect more money. With no fair representation to it’s citizens that the illicit gains are then mismanaged seems to be a crime. 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, that’ll solve things, just get the lawyers involved…
Oh, I agree whole-heartedly with you. I cannot begin to tell you how much I despise the Mayor & City of Gainesville Commissioners. They are known liars, cheaters, thieves, money grabbing, the most incompetent, lazy, and stupid group of people I’ve come across. They’re all just out for a pay check while giving themselves a 50% increase in salary without the citizens knowledge. The City Mayor now makes $93,000. Tell me please. How is any this justifiable? They don’t care about any of the citizens’ well-being, just as long they get to hang around and do nothing to earn their salaries. As for development? Only the
wealthiest of developers are accepted. Now, why is that allowed? Who’s getting what and how much? They can build ignoring the building codes. Again, who’s getting what & how much? The Commissioners + the mayor are the epitome of incompetence & lack of common sense. STOP VOTING PARTY LOYALTY. THINK ABOUT EACH CANDIDATE AND VOTE FOR THE MOST COMPETENT ONES. Do you like the fact that they implemented the no cash bail? There are criminals running your city, as well the common criminals who intimidate, plunder and kill Gainesville’s citizens. Does it look like they care about you or your Icity? You hired them; now fire them through your vote. We The People have the power. They’ve forgotten they work for you, not the other way around. MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT. DO NOT FALL FOR THEIR EMPTY PROMISES; THEY’RE EXACTLY THAT, EMPTY!!!! POWER TO THE PEOPLE, NOT TO THE ELITES!!!! FIRE THEM ALL; REPLACE THEM WITH PEOPLE WHO WILL WORK FOR YOUR’S & YOUR CITY’S BEST INTEREST!!!!
Gainesville employs what they call a ‘traffic calming’ approach to managing our intersections. Hooo boy. Well, it takes longer to go from one edge to the other than it does in rush hour in San Francisco. Don’t get me started on the apartments that have taken over our fair city. It’s now unrecognizable with fartcatecture that looks like warmed over crap. No one moves here or lives here for another CVS, but that’s what you’re going to get. I’m from here, my mom and dad were from here, and I’m fortunate to live in the house my Grandmother bought in 1956 which allows me to get anywhere I want to go on a bicycle. I try not to drive, but if I don have to I just know it’s going to take awhile, and also some idiot is going to try to run the light. What’s to do? No one seems to know.
My decision NOT to move to Gainesville was based on a two-week trip to “chedk it out” from my home in south Florida. The traffic and un-checked development took it off our list quickly. The traffic light nightmare getting off the Interstate was INSANE! Red lights to the horizon! It took us 42 minutes to go 1.5 miles to our hotel in OFF SEASON! We will stay in Plantation, FL where lights are sequenced properly for 2023, not to where 1960s technology meets 2023 traffic.
Gainesville is woke. Hence nothing is done with competence. Hiring is not based on ability. It is a delusional ideological driven dysfunctional mess in terminal decline. Until the citizens elect people who are focused on life quality rather than insane ideology decline will continue.
Trees are cut in denser new developments because codes require underground utilities there. It prevents power lines from getting knocked down during storms.
Developers are required to plant new trees, to replace these cut down. They get fined if they cut down heritage trees needlessly.
The combination of density and underground utilities makes it economically impossible to weave around the roots of every tree. But they try to keep bigger, long living tree species already on site, such as you’ll see in green spaces of new developments. Every set aside green element adds to the overall cost, it’s a trade off when people want new housing.
Obviously you have not checked out the subdivisions they are developing on the west side. They are tearing out every tree in acres and acres of land leaving no trees at all. This is happening in almost every subdivision developed in the last three or four years. Take a trip along Parker Road (SW 122nd ST). They are turning that area into a desert (other than the grass they plant)!
Lights🚦road🚧 trees🌳 🌲 🌴 .
1 lights require studying the intersection, or $$$$computer programmer that’s needs data to change light signals.plus the responsibilityof being right or (wrong=wreck)..=time..sorry truth is the truth.
2 road potholes that’s a a a stay alert drivers until :$$$$$$ arrives to purchase materials to 👷♀️☆make a new road☆👷=time..sorry truth is the truth.
3 trees yes unfortunately removal has left building structures, where ,,,get this,,, more humans can live….the air in those areas is much different trees breathe in carbon, that’s right. Exhale oxygen. Beautiful I know. Truth is the truth.
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜climate,Gainesville and decades past,seminaries days of Gainesville fl are past,the railroad that transported people 🙄 to Gainesville past. Wee wee,trees need them,
🌳 🌲 🌴 plant a tree in Gainesville seriously there is a free service for citizens of area…just ask….
Just a few mentions on the topics oh my 5mintues are up 🪒. 😆😂
Harvey is absolutely right! I too remember the country atmosphere of G’ville (aka Hoggtown) back in the early 70’s.
Whole different world back then. Slower pace of life, more mom-pop businesses.
Then greed set in. City commission chose to demolish all that was unique to that college town.
W University Ave watering holes all gone, replaced by concrete & glass. Greed for tax revenue that the commission will squander away on useless projects.
The fond memories remain, but I do not.
As one of the few, the proud, the native Floridan’s, the state of my State makes me want to weep. A once unique and beautiful ecology has pretty much been destroyed and it will never come again.
I’m glad I remember Florida before Disney, when my hometown of Orlando was a sleepy, lake filled, town of about 150,000. Where on nights when the wind was right, you could smell the orange blossoms from the groves that were just outside of town. Greed has destroyed my state just as it has destroyed so many other things and so many people. I’m glad I remember “before.”
Their are a few of us who remember Florida before Disney, been here for 70 years born and raised
His evaluations are correct! We are allowing companies from other states to develop theses areas with no common interests in the once beauty of the area. It breaks my heart to see all of this destruction of our beautiful city. I hope the city commission will do something to prohibit more of these ugly buildings from being built.
The wood burner (power plant) is so inefficient for a few reasons. The amount of wood required is far beyond what was sold. Approximately 100 -120 trucks per day deliver chips. That requires aces and acres of clear cutting just to maintain. The plant was also built very cheap. With many sub-par components and equipment thus, requires constant maintenance.
(The company builds these plants cheap and sells them off for profit)
The City decided to agree to 30 years of power purchases…. That, was the nail in the coffin. That agreement far exceeded any value the plant would provide. It has been a bad idea from inception. But it’s “green”, so was an easy sell to the ignorant that insisted on the elimination of fossil fuels.
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https://news.mongabay.com/2023/11/enviva-the-worlds-largest-biomass-energy-company-is-near-collapse/
Gainesville has a very up to date synchronized traffic light operation run from it’s location on 39th Ave near 6th Street. If any particular intersections or roads are not working well it is either not being monitored properly (there is a room with real time views of the major intersections) or there just might be too much damn traffic now. If you hit the first light right and are doing the speed limit, you can go from Waldo Road to 13th Street on University with very short to no stops at midday. Rush hour, forget it. Living in a highly populated community means your going to wait for other people, on or off the road.
Agreed. And they always want to stick bike lanes in the road. How many deaths or injuries per hear of folks getting run over I wonder?
The ignorance on this thread is staggering.
Yes, synchronize the traffic lights! Even when going to work at 530am, if you hit one red light, you will hit them all, and as noted, nobody is at the cross light. This is what forces people to speed because going 10 over will sometimes work in one’s favor. Many cities will post a sign that notes traffic lights are synchronized for 45mph for example. Synchronization would help with pollution and frustration with the local traffic flow and get us into the modern times.
I completely agree, Gainesville has changed for the worse in some aspects . I do not venture downtown much at all anymore, there’s no parking available and safety is a big concern! Where trees used to be a priority in this city the developers have destroyed that too! There are some positive aspects though for those of us that do enjoy the musical scene. And many of the restaurants have good food and good service.
I’m downtown everyday and I find parking easily. What?!
We can thank much of that change to the last two UF presidents, Bernie Machen and Kent Fuchs who were both highly driven by their need for diversity. Instead of accepting local well qualified legacy students, Machen and Fuchs filled the area with so much diversity that we now have over 5 thousand Chinese students in this town. Take a look at how that has affected the restaurant scene for just one thing. The list goes on.
Imagine writing an article wishing thing’s were how they were 50 years ago. Lmao. Some old people never move on. They hold onto their pasts forever. I happen to love Gainesville. I’ve been here a decent amount of years and I’ve very very excited to see this lil ol town turn into the metropolis it is becoming! LETS GO GATORS!
Kindred spirit here. Spot on.