“This is not the solution”: School board members react to Newberry’s proposal to convert three schools to public charters
BY JENNIFER CABRERA
GAINESVILLE, Fla. – At the February 20 Alachua County School Board meeting, several board members voiced their opinions about Newberry’s proposal to convert three district schools to public charter schools, and the board unanimously approved the 2024-25 school year calendar and a ballot referendum to renew the One Mill property tax.
Board member announcements
During the agenda item for board member announcements, Member Sarah Rockwell said, “There’s a proposal to turn the three schools in Newberry into charter schools: Newberry Elementary, Oak View Middle School, and Newberry High School. And I have seen a lot of promises being made by the proponents of this about what their charter schools might offer, but I want to share some of the potential impacts.”
Rockwell said charter schools aren’t required to provide transportation and that the school buses that transport students to Newberry schools belong to the school district. She said the magnet programs “will not necessarily continue in a charter school.” She said charter schools that are run by a municipality are not required to take students that live outside the city limits, and “although charter schools are required to serve students with disabilities, they are able to make reasonable declines of students, based on the services they are able to provide.” She said the district would have to provide a zoned school for the students who are currently zoned for those three schools and who either choose not to attend or are declined for any reason.
Rockwell said charter school employees are not part of the Florida Retirement System (see below for a counter to that assertion) and are not entitled to the benefits that are negotiated between the teachers’ union and the district. She added, “While charter schools are required to take the same tests as public schools, they can choose any curriculum they want; it does not have to be approved by the State of Florida. And in addition to that, they do not have to abide by all of the components of the Parental Rights in Education Act that our school district has to abide by. So if you are a parent who is concerned about your child having rigorous, appropriate curriculum and about having parental oversight of the curriculum they’re using and the books that are available to them, you will not have that if these become charter schools.”
Rockwell concluded, “We currently have three schools looking to cede from this district, and I just want to point out that that’s not stability. That’s a failure of this district. And we need to do better, but this is not the solution.”
Member Tina Certain said she would hold her comments until the end of the meeting, but “I would just like to make one correction… Charter schools can participate in Florida Retirement System (FRS) if a school participates and pays the fee for the employees… and the employees contribute the required contribution.” She said a couple of local charters participate in FRS.
Member Kay Abbitt, who founded a charter school, said, “Charters do use different curriculum, but whatever curriculum they’re choosing must be working, because if you go back and look at charter schools who contribute to the district school grade, most of those charters are As or Bs. [You can find school grades for the 2022-23 school year here.] There are things that are different about charters, but they’re held to the same standards. They have to have certified teachers… they can be part of Florida Retirement if they choose. There’s a lot of flexibility with charters, and some of that could be because they’re not bound by union rules, and so they’re able to do different things with their teachers… I’m just correcting some misconceptions about charters because there’s a lot that goes on in this district where people just make assumptions about things that aren’t true. And so that’s for Newberry to figure out, but there is a place for charters in our school system.”
ACEA comment on the proposal
During public comment, Alachua County Education Association President Carmen Ward said she needed to respond “about the charter school announcement that happened this weekend. I do think that there were some negative words put out there about unions.” She said the union believes that “our traditional public schools are phenomenal and are the best places for all the students in Alachua County, and charter schools may show excellent gains, but they hand-pick their students.” She said the collective bargaining agreement “protects the rights of the employees of the school system, and we are very proud of that… I definitely think that we need to conserve our resources for all the students in our county.”
Member comment
During member comment at the end of the meeting, Rockwell made a motion to “have the charter school office create an FAQ and a side-by-side display of what the similarities and differences are between a traditional district-run public school and a charter school.” She was told by staff that motions should not be made during member comment, and Chair Diyonne McGraw said, “We’ve heard Dr. Rockwell’s request.”
An FAQ for employees has already been posted on the school district’s website.
“I think we need to right now start accumulating documentation to support the negative impact that this will have on the school community” – Member Tina Certain
Certain said, “If the [Newberry] vote comes back favorably and whatever, we, the district, can–if we deny, we have to prepare a document with reasons why we would deny… the charter, and I think we need to right now start accumulating documentation to support the negative impact that this will have on the school community… I don’t know where my colleagues stand on this, with our support of what’s happening there, but to take three public assets and put them under the control of a few people and not serve all of the 2,000 students or so that are currently zoned to that school… I think, is not right.”
“I think that what happened this week with Newberry is a wake-up call, and it’s telling the district that we need to be maybe doing some things differently.” – Member Kay Abbitt
Abbitt said, “I think that what happened this week with Newberry is a wake-up call, and it’s telling the district that we need to be maybe doing some things differently. My hope is, with these two year-round schools, that we’re going to approach them in a different manner and be innovative and not just make a calendar change. Because I think the rest of the district needs some reassurance that we’re going to make some changes that are positive for the education of all students in our district.”
A few minutes later, Certain added, “I do have serious concerns with taking three district schools and saying they’re going to be charter, where people can decide who’s going to be in there and who’s not.” She said the City of Newberry is welcome to start a new charter school, “but this right here, like I said, doesn’t sit well with the community of students–current students, future students, past students–because those three schools were built out there in that rural area to serve the student body, not to just serve Newberry proper, and school districts… operate on a district concept, not on a municipality concept, which is what they’re desiring.”
Abbitt responded, “You’re right, there are differences, but I think sometimes it’s those differences that allow [charter schools] to be so successful.” She pointed out that because the schools won’t be under the Collective Bargaining Agreement with the teachers’ union, the elementary school could have a full day of school on Wednesdays.
Four-year renewal of the One Mill property tax
In other business, the board voted unanimously to put a four-year renewal of the One Mill property tax on the November 2024 ballot.
Member Tina Certain said she didn’t want to “derail” the resolution over ballot language, but she felt “the bulk of the [One Mill] is supporting a lot of programming for advanced students, and our lower-performing schools and students–it’s an inequity.”
“Your One Mill pays for our amazing media specialists who choose books for our students, who help them pick books at their interest level, who listen to parents who might want their children to have a more narrowed selection.” – Member Sarah Rockwell
Member Sarah Rockwell said, “Earlier in the school year, a lot of school districts in Florida were making news because they had closed media centers and shelves that were taped off, had drapes on them; that was because they do not have media specialists in every school… We didn’t have that in Alachua County. We had fully-stocked media centers, filled classroom libraries, children with access to books. And that’s because your One Mill pays for our amazing media specialists who choose books for our students, who help them pick books at their interest level, who listen to parents who might want their children to have a more narrowed selection.” She also referred to the artwork on display in the board room and reminded parents that if their children participate in visual arts, Career and Technical Education, or performing arts, that is all supported by the One Mill funds.
2024-25 school calendar
The board also unanimously adopted the proposed calendar for the 2024-25 school year.
Community input session for Rawlings and Metcalfe
During member comment at the end of the meeting, Certain requested “a community meeting input session for the parents of the students and families that are impacted by the year-round school models at Rawlings and Metcalfe… That doesn’t sit well with me to make a major change like that there.” She said meetings had been held after the change to the magnet program at Williams Elementary was announced, “and I am going to insist that we extend the same courtesy to families that are impacted by this change.”
Upcoming meetings
McGraw announced that the next school board workshop is at 1 p.m. on February 28. She also announced that input will not be taken via phone calls at the March 5 school board meeting because staff members will be out of town.
This dysfunctional school board conveniently forgets the main reasons Newberry wants out from under the ACSB thumb. Like poor support of the staff, poor discipline of disruptive students, a woke curriculum. The teachers union doesn’t want to lose their control of the politicians. They also seem to forget that going to a charter school is voluntary, and the children have to obey the rules.
1-public charter schools must teach the exact same curriculum as public schools. Do your homework.
2-disciplining of student is the same with a public charter as it is with a public school. Again, do your homework.
3-per student, Newberry Elem, Newberry High and Oak View receive more funding than most schools within the district, according to the 2022-2023 budget.
4-charter schools are not “voluntary.” Students residing in the approved public charter district will be eligible to attend. However being the school campuses are smaller, less student will likely be attending. Less students mean less financial assets for the school and less resources for teachers and students that are currently being used.
Go ahead and cut you nose in spite of your face with this one. Just like the boondoggle “Springs County”, you are not taking a look at the big picture.
Your full of $$1tt!
And the Newberry Charter Schools including students and teachers will flourish. That is exactly what you and the failed ACSB members are afraid of.
posts the person who refers to themselves as “Captain Shad”! You are full of shad! I posted factual data.
Who’s facts. Your post is totally inaccurate. None of your statements are accurate. If you feel otherwise, please post the statutes that confirm your feelings. Thanks.
Charter schools can expel discipline problems and return them to the public school district. Discipline is not exactly the same.
Afraid to use your real name? I love how some people think SC has had no impact. Look up and look around. What do you think all these ideas and efforts have come from? The impact has been huge. If you think SC was a boondoggle, you keep thinking that.
All the school board is worried about is loss of money and power.
Thank you Kay Abbitt for your critical thinking skills.
Expect a gameplan of fear mongering to the normies and name calling to those actively supporting this critical need of having competition in academia. Entrenched power unchecked is not good in any area be it government or private industry.
Vote AGAINST the one mill. It’s asinine that non-property owners can vote on imposing this.
Get over it. Requiring land ownership to be a voter was overturned by SCUS almost 100 years ago. Wake up.
Hi Joe,
I agree 100%. My property taxes have gone WAAAY up in the last 5 years and what have I gained from paying all of this extra money ? Pretty much nothing.
The thing that drives me nuts is all of these morons who DON’T own property all vote to increase every mill increase there is and think that it doesn’t effect them.
Then once it goes into effect, they are SHOCKED.. SHOCKED I SAY when their rents go up and they scream that the evil land lords are ripping them off.
They don’t get that if you raise a property owner’s taxes and you are renting from him, he just passes the added costs to YOU the renter !!
This county has enough money that they waste, they don’t need more.
Keep in mind, people who don’t own land rent. They pay the owners taxes. Their vote is just as important.
I thought Alachua County was all in on home rule?
I find it amusing just how little Rockwell knew about the school system. It was nice for Certain to correct her and provide the true facts.
Rockwell concluded, “We currently have three schools looking to cede from this district, and I just want to point out that that’s not stability. That’s a failure of this district. And we need to do better, but this is not the solution.” For years now it’s been failure after failure of this school board to address issues within the district. That’s what’s driven Newberry’s residents to this point.
Abbitt said, “I think that what happened this week with Newberry is a wake-up call, and it’s telling the district that we need to be maybe doing some things differently.” The first volley has been thrown and if actions to protect children and staff are not addressed soon, I would expect other schools to join the foray.
Let the voters there in Newberry decide. There must be something driving it, so a discussion in the form of a referendum is democracy at its finest.
I would suggest Newberry voters educate themselves on the issue first. Kinda odd it is announced on Monday and the vote must be held in less than 60 days. My review on the matter is the district is working on the overcrowding issue. The district puts more funding towards Newberry schools than most schools in the district, with more funding per student for Newberry HS, the smallest HS, than at Buchholz, which is the district’s largest. The district has purchased 37 acres of land in Jonesville with plans to build new schools and therefore relieve the main, or I should say the most vocal complaint, in that the schools are overcrowded.
Still throwing that out there?
Still wrong.
yet, once again, you post NOTHING to say otherwise!
You’re not worth the time, nor the effort to repost something that’s been stated not only by myself but others as well.
Get back to your sandbox.
In the latest data from the state, Newberry Elementary received $10371 per pupil, while Lake Forest received $17846 per pupil.
Some people who claim to have common sense have a difficult time making sense out of that.
Yet you’ve not posted anything discredit my post! What’s the matter, chicken?
Others have if I remember correctly.
Guess that’s something you have difficulty with. (That’s not a question.)
At 10K – 20K per pupil, I’d think you could get a really good teacher to teach five to ten kids at a time at their home. One of the fallacies is that pupils need supervision the whole time. Not so, the teacher could teach, give homework and grade. The students wouldn’t need them their the whole time.
Where did you get this “data”? What link?
What “latest data from the state” are you refrencing? Latest SBAC budget is 2022-2023 (link) below shows funding per school and enrollment. Fell free to double check my work.
-Newberry Elementary, with 614 enrolled received $5 million, which breaks down to $8,143 spent on each student. Similar in size Parker Elementary, with 639 students enrolled received $4.5 million, or $7,042 per student. Newberry Elementary has less students but received more funds.
-Oak View Middle has an enrollment of 945 and spent $6.1million, or $6,514 per student.
Lincoln’s enrollment was 707 and spent $3.9million or $5,656 per student. Similarly, Ft. Clarke’s enrollment of 915 and $5.1 million budget means $5,663 was spent on each student.
-Newberry High school enrollment of 595 students and with expenditures of $3.6 million, means the school district spent $6,868 per student, which you will see, is the most out of all high schools.
Gainesville High School student population was 1,606 with a $9.7 million budget equaling $6,039 per student.
Buchholz enrollment of 2,154 had $11.8 million budgeted, which means each student received $5,478 in education, which is the lowest of all high schools.
Eastside enrollment of 1,103 with a budget of $6..8 million equals $6,165 per student.
Thee figures are drawn from each school’s general fund as well as the half-cent sales tax, Federal food funds and the two COVID relief acts. Removing COVID funds only lowers the individual student number by a few dollars. Budget includes staff salaries, utilities, supplies and CapEx of each school. They do not include transportation (buses) as it has its own budget.
https://fl02219191.schoolwires.net/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=1465&dataid=71931&FileName=Annual%20Budget%2022-23.pdf
They only build new elementary schools. Same middle and high schools since duck-and-cover Cold War drills. Resource allocation makes no sense whenever they “fix” an issue with another penny here dollar there tax scheme.
Hahahahahaha Good for Newberry. Stay strong Newberry.
“This is a wake-up call”, the alarm clock has been sounding off for years!
It’s not like there hasn’t been warning signs that Alachua county is growing and that the schools system hasn’t been keeping up with that growth. Not entirely the fault of just the school board but certainly they complicit in the planning phases.
For the record, SBAC did buy 37 acres of land in Jonesville, an area of rapid growth in the county, to construct new schools.
Yes, they bought this land in Jonesville. Certain in particular resents that this land was purchased. Individuals on the SBAC have expressed that this was a bad purchase and that they don’t want to spend money on the west side of the county even though that is where all the growth is. There are no current plans to build anything on this property in the next five years that I am aware of.
Well, it was in 2020 when there was no growth whatsoever…so…. Wouldn’t you think it smarter to at least try to work with the district? Instead they push a plan to separate and think nothing about the quality of education of the children? Seems all options have not been exhausted.
Keep your sinkhole property.
You misspelled PROPERTY OWNERS!
Does this Charter School decision mean the children of Archer will be excluded from attending Newberry schools? What connection does this Charter School conversation have to do with increased Newberry development and future demands for seats at the education table?
Wait a second! Isn’t it Tina who has been crying about “local rule” for years now? Why aren’t the parents of Newberry entitled to exercise “local rule” in how they want their kids educated? Hilarious.
She and Sarah and Leanetta just don’t get the fact that this is a movement in response to their failed, regressive ideology where they believe they govern the people rather than serve them. The people in Newberry are rejecting that. Don’t be surprised if Alachua/High Springs is next. Followed by Waldo/Hawthorne.
Instead of wasting your time forcing inappropriate books in the schools so that you can signal your virtues to your left-wing pals, you should listen to McGraw and Abbitt about how to make this system work. Because it’s now crumbling around you, and it’s your fault.
Ms. Certain’s statement ‘take three public assets and put them under the control of a few people and not serve all of the 2,000 students or so that are currently zoned to that school’ exactly describes the situation we have now.
Not exactly it doesn’t. The school board has authority over those schools and would have to agree to the circumstances under which any charter school could use them. Newberry can’t just decide to take over those schools. They have to get permission from the school board and they have to pay.
The school board has every legal right to deny permission to use those schools. Just like the State of Florida had the legal right to tell the school board they couldn’t force masking of children. But when the state did that, Tina cried “local rule” over and over again. Even after the school board lost at the appellate court level, Tina was the first to make a motion to continue masking requirements in defiance of the court order. You know, because of “local rule.”
Now here we are with a town attempting to exercise “local rule” and good ‘ol Tina is the first to scream that “doesn’t sit well” with her. Surely you see how hilariously hypocritical that is.
Sick of Regressives-
WELL PUT!!!! zero lies in your statement
“It works too well, and doesn’t cost enough money. Whatever it is, we’re against it.”
Springs County called a “boondoggle.”
I’d call it the answer to a lot of problems not the least of which would be better schools, lower taxes, and roads you can drive on without falling in a hole.
Don’t forget that Commissioner Chestnut said he was against giving any resources to Newberry because it supported the idea of Springs County. Let that sink in.
I’ll vote against any tax increases for any reason. As someone pointed out the problem is not how much money the county has (it has plenty) it’s how it is spent. The answer to incompetence in management is always raise taxes. Think one cent for Wild Places Public Spaces and other things that should be covered by the exorbitant taxes we already pay on property.
Yes, everybody gets to vote, even if they own no property, which is unfortunate when taxes are based on property ownership. Guess which way non-property owners are going to vote. It’s easy to spend other people’s money when it costs you nothing. The cost of shared services should also be shared. How about some Equity there?
Just like the financially troubled idea of Springs County, the good folks of Newberry will take over the schools and bankrupt the city to “own the libs” in downtown Gainesville.
It is a mental defect common in MAGAtards, Christian Nationalists, cult members of all types, and CONservative Republicans. “Owning the libs” fits in with Trumps plan to extract vengeance on all his perceived “enemies” if he gets reelected. Hatred overrules logic.
They don’t care if Newberry’s rapid development will bring in enough students to force them to raise taxes soon to build new schools, as the existing ones are already overcrowded.
They listen to Mayor Marlowe, who, in the intelligence department, is 53 cards short of a full deck. You go, Newberritards, secede your schools now and regret it later but enjoy your town party circle jerk for “owning the libs.”
Amazing. Not a single verifiable fact in an ocean of opinion…
If you have to resort to ad hominems, you don’t have an intelligent argument.
Its obvious you suffer from cranial rectumitus…. You are oblivious to your own hatred of your fellow citizens.
It’s not about owning the 🪳s! It’s about being FREE of your garbage beliefs! We do not want the cancer of left wing idiotology metastasizing! The CoG is proof of the kind of world your idiotology results in!
UH , last time I checked the Homeys in the City of Gainesville are the mentally and financial challenged failures . A fired City Commission, State oversight required to even begin to Audit the mess, Massive Tax Hikes and the conundrum for the Wokesters has just begun . Yet still in denial? Right?
Quite a display of transference from the person who proudly displays itself as a fish. Wonder what smelled in here.
This right here, for the people who do not read the entire article!!!
Member Kay Abbitt, who founded a charter school, said, “Charters do use different curriculum, but whatever curriculum they’re choosing must be working, because if you go back and look at charter schools who contribute to the district school grade, most of those charters are As or Bs. [You can find school grades for the 2022-23 school year here.] There are things that are different about charters, but they’re held to the same standards. They have to have certified teachers… they can be part of Florida Retirement if they choose. There’s a lot of flexibility with charters, and some of that could be because they’re not bound by union rules, and so they’re able to do different things with their teachers… I’m just correcting some misconceptions about charters because there’s a lot that goes on in this district where people just make assumptions about things that aren’t true. And so that’s for Newberry to figure out, but there is a place for charters in our school system.”
Someone please correct me if I am mistaken but it is my understanding that Newberry’s request has to be approved by the School Board (it appears they already are planning on denying it) before it can happen. Based on Certain’s comments it appears that is what will occur. What are Newberry’s options when their request gets denied? My kids are grown and out of school so I have no skin in the game but I am curious how this whole process works.
The denial can be appealed to the State.
Where can I find a copy of this woke agenda? Anyone have a copy or link?
Explain what is woke?
…still waiting…
Rocks for Brains , please don’t school us on library books. You get and F on that. One thing for Certain and you is negative, old school politics that continue to fail the students and teachers. To be “Shocked “you and your sick agenda can be ousted reveals the shallow mindset of the ACSB .
“One thing for Certain and you is negative”
Bruh….um….you get an F for this ‘sentence’ and noun/verb agreement.
It’s the message awipe
you lost him at verb.
It appears the facts seem in favor of Newberry, but as expected many in power at the SBAC and the union are using fear tactics and juvenile name calling in response. My kids are grown and no skin in this game, but the issue should be debated with facts only and I believe the people of Newberry (right and left leaning) have the right to decide.
Well, yes, it is the only solution. Homeschooling and private schools don’t work for everybody…..ACPS don’t work at all.
I like this comment.
As a retired educator from Florida and Georgia, I say “Way to go, Newberry!” Public schools are a disaster and are only getting worse.
There are no absolutes in any scenario or system. What you have are some truths you have learned over time. The current system is burdened with political liabilities. Funds are wasted in creating a top-heavy administration and duplication. Redundancy is great in a military situation but worthless in your educational management structure. Streamline that aspect and prioritize the education of your children. Teachers and staff are critical needs, and their value in a pay formula comes first. Example: Having 4 Assistant Principals in a High School and then the Principal is a huge waste of funds. All of these costs come before one penny is spent helping a Student learn. Trim the top and address performance issues. The mentality that more Administrators equals better results is even more apparent as you head toward ACSB or SBAC.
The physical, buildings, and teachers plus staff are at the top of the pyramid, not the bottom. The further you move out from Gville, the lack of equal funding becomes more noticeable. Newberry wants to take its fair share of what it derives from the State and provide a better, more efficient model. They are tired of being fed crumbs when they have earned a slice of the financial pie. Discipline is a simple concept: cause and effect doctrine. In my 35+ years in the classroom teaching students, this truth always works. Students thrive in a quiet learning environment. When even the most disruptive student discovers how smart they are, they push themselves to want to be a top student. Give Newberry a chance; they will make this work, and the results will be astounding.
Well stated. With any initiative there are no “solutions” its a system of tradeoffs to get closer to the desired outcome.
Very well stated. Good to have an expert’s opinion on this issue. Personally, I’m pulling for the public school system (although I have nothing against competition from charters). The only thing I would add is that McGraw and Abbitt have identified that too much time and resources is wasted on the troublemakers. Get them out of the system somehow and the rest will thrive.
This is a decision to basically change management of the schools in Newberry from the SBAC to local Newberry and Archer stakeholders. Local decisions for local schools. The students will barely notice the difference on a day to day operational basis.
They detractors are not afraid it will pass and we fail. They are afraid it will pass and we succeed.
I can’t wait for the Chronicle article trying to spin the Archer City Commission vote to oppose the charter school idea. The Chronicle is obviously biased to support the crazy Newberry agenda like Springs County and the charter school nonsense.