“Trees are as valuable as people”: Alachua County Commission considers changes to their tree protection codes, asks UF Health to provide cost estimates to all patients of the new Eastside clinic
BY JENNIFER CABRERA
GAINESVILLE, Fla. – At their August 8 Special Meeting, the Alachua County Commission passed a five-part motion asking staff to research various elements of their tree protection code and voted to send a Chair letter to UF Health, asking them to provide cost estimates to all patients at their new Eastside clinic.
The agenda item on “Tree Protection in Developments” arose because of a discussion at the June 11 meeting, when Commissioner Ken Cornell became upset at the number of trees slated to be cut down to build 36 homes on 5 acres in the Parker Road Cottage Neighborhood. At that meeting, Commissioners asked staff to look at ways to save additional trees in developments and suggest code changes to do that.
Current tree protections
Alachua County Growth Management Director Jeff Hays said the County’s land development code has a species-specific hierarchy for protecting trees: trees receive priority for protection based on species, size, age, condition, historic association, and uniqueness. Champion trees and designated specimen trees cannot be removed or must be mitigated (meaning a fine is paid) if damage cannot be avoided. 20% of the existing tree canopy on the site must be preserved except in certain types of developments with high density. 60-inch-diameter trees must be retained unless development cannot occur anywhere else on the site; Hays said he can only recall one 60-inch tree that was removed since that standard was adopted in 2020, “and that was because it was in a roadway.”
The protected area for any tree is equal to the drip line of the tree unless a larger area is more appropriate, and that may be up to two additional feet in the protection diameter for every inch of tree trunk diameter.
Prizzia: “Half the time they’re not actually destroying the trees”
Commissioner Anna Prizzia said the board may want to reconsider the drip line requirement because it adds to all the other constraints for developers – “the stormwater and the open space and the trees – they can’t figure out how to have no drip line impacts. So they show that they’re destroying the trees, and half the time they’re not actually destroying the trees – the trees are being retained because they’re actually an amenity or asset to the development, but they don’t want to say that they’re protecting them because if they say they’re protecting them, they have to protect them with zero drip line impacts.”
Prizzia said she supported drip line impacts “because these are living creatures, and they need space to live, just like we all need space to live,” but she thought the County should look more into “the science of that” and how different types of impacts into drip lines affect trees.
County Forester Jessica Hong said the drip line impact requirements only apply to the trees that count toward the 20% canopy requirement; developers can impact the drip line of trees that are above that minimum canopy, but they still have to mitigate for those trees as if they were not retained.
Since developers have to pay to mitigate the tree, there is no incentive to save it
Chair Mary Alford said mitigation is the issue because if a developer has to pay to mitigate the tree, anyway, there is no incentive to save the tree. She suggested making developers responsible for the survival of the trees if they impact the drip line.
Prizzia said she hoped they wouldn’t make any major decisions at the meeting because they have several environmental policy projects coming before them soon, including a Climate Action Plan, that will affect development standards, so she wanted to discuss all of them together. She said, however, that she thought they should find some flexibility for drip line impacts and potential mitigation to incentivize developers to save more trees.
Prizzia also said that she had spoken to the developer of the Parker Road Cottage Neighborhood development, “and some of those trees aren’t getting cut down; it’s just they didn’t include them in their development plan.”
Cornell said he wanted to reduce the size of tree that can’t be removed to something under 60 inches, but he also wanted to set priorities in the code so staff can weigh different factors in determining the best design for a development. Hays said it can be very difficult to meet all the requirements on a small property.
Prizzia: “I think if we didn’t require as much mitigation as we require, we may get better tree protection. I really do.”
Prizzia suggested asking staff for ideas on a reduced standard of drip line protection for trees outside the minimum canopy: “I think if we didn’t require as much mitigation as we require, we may get better tree protection. I really do.”
Hays said the limit for impacting the drip line is 50%, and developers that take advantage of that have to pay 50% of the mitigation fee it would cost to cut the tree down. Hong added that developers can also elect to pay the full mitigation fee and get their money back if the tree is still alive after five years.
Prizzia: “Eventually they can’t develop anything, right?”
Prizzia supported adding some incentives to protect more trees than required: “If we keep adding – like, you have to protect the 40-inch, you have to protect the 30-inch, you have to protect the 20-inch – there’s not going to be any development availability left, and we’re going to end up in lawsuits… because all of our requirements layer on top of each other, and eventually they can’t develop anything, right?”
She said trees are a natural resource like wetlands and endangered species, and it’s important to “recognize that trees are as valuable as people, are as valuable as another natural creature – we all deserve to be here, and we all deserve the same respect and autonomy to be on this planet, and we’re all equally a part of the importance of this ecosystem that we call planet earth… But unfortunately, we’re dealing with people whose only real drive is their bottom line – it’s a spreadsheet and it’s money and it’s economics. They don’t care about the economic value of the water quality that that tree is providing, because they aren’t going to ever have to deal with that water quality, especially the national developers.”
Cornell threatens to impose a tree moratorium “because I don’t want our urban forests to be slashed and burned”
Cornell said he was ready to put resources into taking a tree inventory within the urban cluster and use it to develop strategies. He said he was “pretty upset” at the trees being removed for the Parker Road Cottage Neighborhood project, “and I don’t know how many nights I’m going to get upset… because another couple of upset nights and I’m going to throw out a tree moratorium because I don’t want our urban forests to be slashed and burned… and I’m hoping that developers are hearing that because there is a quick way to fix this by changing some words in our code, and I don’t want to do that.”
He said he would prefer a collaborative process with developers, “but I want our developers to work with us, not against us.” He said that if he doesn’t hear “solutions from them about how do we fix it, then we fix it by lowering the inches and by changing the definitions, and we treat live oaks like we treat wetlands – that’s how we fix it… And I am ready to do that because I don’t want to lose our urban forest.”
Prizzia responded, “I want to make sure that what we do isn’t reactionary and it’s thoughtful and it’s approached with a holistic mindset.”
Motion on tree protection
Hays said they could make shorter-term changes, and Cornell made a four-part motion. The first part was to “refer to staff to bring back some recommendations on drip-line impacts that are allowable without mitigation funds.” The second part was to “refer to staff to bring back recommendations of what other counties and cities are doing for following up on the monitoring and different time frames.” Part three was to “bring back a recommendation on how staff would prioritize the hierarchy of trees,” and part four was to “refer to staff to bring back to us a budget and a timeline of doing a tree inventory within the urban cluster.”
County Manager Michele Lieberman suggested that staff could bring back a “back-of-the-napkin” cost for the tree inventory when the County Commission considers the FY2025 budget, and Cornell emphasized that he wanted that by the September budget meetings. Prizzia also wanted to move quickly to see if the County could “piggyback” on the City’s contract for a tree inventory.
Alford suggested adding a fifth part to the motion of “other ways to basically save trees… any other recommendation that staff has to preserve the urban tree canopy.”
The motion passed unanimously.
Pricing at the UF Health Urgent Care Center – Eastside
During commission comment, Prizzia said she remained concerned about the pricing at the UF Health Urgent Care Center – Eastside, and she had learned that “all hospitals and urgent care and doctors’ offices can provide estimates, and typically they do it upon request. And if it’s not urgent care or ED, they actually have to, by law, stay within 10% of that estimate. That’s not true necessarily of an urgent care or emergency room because they sometimes have to act quickly, and they don’t know what they’re going to need to do.”
Prizzia continued, “I wanted to see if we could write a letter to the administrators of the Eastside clinic, to ask if they would proactively provide estimates to all of the patients that come in, so that people understand what it is that they’re getting into. It’s not that difficult to do. They do it upon request.” She said there had also been “conversation about the possibility of a pharmacy kiosk and the possibility of being able to do labs, and so I just wanted to encourage them to consider [pursuing both of those things.]”
Cornell seconded her motion for a two-part Chair letter, and the motion passed unanimously.
Hurricane Debby State of Emergency extended for seven days
At the request of Lieberman, the board also voted unanimously to extend the State of Emergency for Hurricane Debby for seven days because staff was still doing damage assessments and the river was still rising.
Mini Kenny Cornhole doesn’t want the trees to be slashed and burned!!!! Well Kenny, why don’t you get the county out of the agreement to get power from GRU since slash and burn trees to make power is exactly what GRU does.
Why didn’t they object when they clear-cut trees at Celebration Point? Answer=$$$
You will never be able to satisfy Mini Kenny Cornhole, the development he is crying about because of trees being removed, is exactly the type of development the county wanted to save the trees. Basically, they are putting 24 homes on 108 acres which means the major majority of the trees will be saved, but that is not good enough for Mr. Platform Shoes Mini Kenny, this is another example of once you give an inch they take a mile. Normally on 108-acre development there are 400 + homes, but this developer on put 24 homes on this same amount of land and now that is not good enough. Maybe this developer didn’t contribute enough to Mini Kenny’s final and last election campaign (especially since single district will knock him out).
Cornhole Kenny didn’t care so much about trees when his enclave was constructed near Melrose. How many acres of trees were cut down to accommodate that and his mother? Maybe he’s just choosing to blame the tree thing on his getting upset at night. Like most Democrats, he’s deflecting. Perhaps his anger has more to do with what he isn’t getting at night or his other “short” comings. He should seek some counseling.
Another liberal hypocrite who’s gotten his and doesn’t want others to get theirs.
The bioplant deal stopped in 2017. Lot of dementia here
Here comes the tree police.
““Trees are as valuable as people”: Alachua County Commission considers changes to their tree protection codes”
More ludicrous leftist tripe.
Trees are as valuable as SOME people. They’re MORE valuable than most politicians.
“Pricing at the UF Health Urgent Care Center – Eastside”
Hopefully they can get a discount for the thugs & gangbangers if they succumb to their gunshot wounds?
And did they mention violent crime is a “disease” not a cultural malady, by chance?
Cornell must be trying to be the new “Hutch” (concerned about nature instead of what he really is, an agent of tree-killing real estate developers with green tree blood all over their hands).
Feckless Commisioners, just downright Feckless
Re the Urgent care pricing estimate, they can probably produce a restaurant-style menu with the number of gunshot wounds as rows and body regions as columns to quickly generate a total estimated cost–shipping, taxes and tips are extra.
I can’t remember last time I’ve seen so much deadwood in one place. I seem to recall it made for a pretty good bonfire though.
Dumbocrats – when will they ever learn?
so a tree is protected unless it is “$mitigated$” to the city then!
u can go to jail for cutting a tree and walk free on a gun crime
Gainesville has been a, “Tree city USA,” since 1983.
Despite the fact it looks like most of the recent developments have slashed and burned every tree in site.
But as much as I love a tree. It is not a human.
Tree = a human life? Wow!! Human babies are killed everyday in the womb, but trees can stay?
Democrats do not value human life.
“…another couple of upset nights and I’m going to throw out a tree moratorium… This is a statement from Ken Cornell, who is supposed to represent the people, not act as a dictator.
For once, I’m in agreement, (partially anyway).
Trees are as valuable as people, and at times more so. They filter the harmful gases these people spew and they definitely contribute more than this group have or ever will.
What’s that saying? “Save a tree, ____________.”
Yes, This may Work, lets save a tree or two and shut down our tree burn source of electricity from GRU. You won’t last two minutes without being able to watch your CNN. By the way if I had to choose between saving you or a tree understand it would be a very easy decision for me.
Been breathing too much sawdust it appears.
Given your reply it’s difficult to ascertain if you’re a tree huggin’ idiot or just a tree burnin’ one.
Any person with a 1/4 of a brain knows the only thing the Bio fiasco burnt was tax revenue and GRU profits.
Try again once you’ve Googled “ascertain.”
This May Work all I can say is my “ass-is-certain” you have been infested with dumbazz disease. Is that a close enough definition.
I would have thought someone as highly intellectual as you think yourself to be could have come up with something a little more original.
Maybe you find it difficult to reach much higher than Kenny’s crotch though. I believe the stepladders are on aisle 18, not far from the chainsaw lubricant.
This may work, to get to Kenny’s crotch i would have to push you out of the way first.
Again, your originality cracks me up.
Let me know when you need a crowbar to pry you away from those numerous appendages you’ve become so fascinated with. (Don’t forget, the general contents of each aisle in the hardware store are on the ends.) Try not to strain your neck since you’ll have to look up more than you’re used to.
Hey, This May Work, I didn’t mean to upset you. Please understand I don’t want your man. I was just teasing you. I am no threat to your position in front of Kenny. Yes, I do see you all the time in my hardware store, you are the guy always on the tile isle buying knee pads, but the funny thing is I never see you buying tile supplies just knee pads.
Me upset? Not at all. Amused would be more appropriate. Amused that they actually allow people with your level of ignorance to purchase a chainsaw, even more so allowed to operate one.
I think there are warnings on the packaging but they’ll probably overlook your inability to comprehend them though.
Thanks for mentioning the protective gear, you’ll need to go to “Babies, or Kids Are Us” for the bibs. Since you appear pretty cheap, you can also find them at your local Walmart as well.
This may work I am so glad you are not upset and thanks for bib suggestion. If you have a bib unstained I know that is a long shot you could give me one of yours so I can save some money
Unfortunately I do not. There are a couple regulars here who find the sharing of such indulgences to be a somewhat intimate experience when shared by like-minded individuals who enjoy the same tastes. Forgive me for implying like-minded , I could have used simple minded just as easily but didn’t want to give you too much credit. I’m confident they’ll be more than willing to provide one for you, although I doubt it’s been washed – that irrigation/save the water thing… hopefully you won’t mind.
Try to have a good rest of the week. You’ve accomplished a lot of vocabulary building today, no need to waste it in one place.
Chain Saw, smh biomass plant shuttered in 2017. How old is your bot script ? Seriously, conservatives think they are really cooking with that one
The combination of ignorance and arrogance here is truly remarkable. The biomass plant is operating TODAY, and if you doubt it, check the amount spent on biomass fuel in 2024: https://www.gru.com/Portals/0/InvestorRelations/FY24_GRUBudgetBook_Final%20for%20Dist.pdf
Yes, John that is point exactly, all that money was spent on a tree burning plant (which was such a good idea lmao) and it is not even being used, yet everybody in the city of Gville and the county (by the way the county pays more for power than Gville residents lmao) are still paying for it. So, we can all agree who the idiots, they are the dumbazz who keep voting these people in office, such as yourself.
RE: Eastside Medical Place.
BOCC needs to require the place to publish a monthly tally of “Who Paid? Cash, insurance or Medicaid.”
I predict that 99% of the patrons there will be Medicaid patients, who do not care of the cost, since the taxpayers pay.
TV said the place will have a maternity clinic. Well there you go. Medicaid mamas overpopulating public housing (yea a stereotype, but true) will be the #1 patrons of this clinic. Far outnumbering patching up thugs shot by fellow thugs.
Do you know who leads the demographic of medicaid and public housing in this country?
We are not discussing the county as a whole, we are discussing East Gainesville surrounding the new Free Clinic.
They cannot end a pregnancy if it’s unwanted. Never mind the education needed for planning parenthood. We will not help bring the children into the world. We will not feed or educate the children. Then we complain about our tax dollars being wasted on public breeding grounds. With a balloon, push here, bulge there. What happened to the love and humanity we once had in our society?
Yeah, cut out Medicaid, cut out government housing. That’s a job for a builder, that is a job for a nurse or doctor. It doesn’t matter who pays for it, they are still out of a job. Someone is dying unnecessarily, from lack of healthcare. I’m glad you’re qualified to decide who lives and who dies. God please help us!
Prizzia is absolutely unhinged and insane–“trees are as valuable as people”??!
We throw thousands of trees a day into the GRU biomass incinerator that leftists like her approved–what she is really saying is that the people of Alachua County are as worthless as trees.
Well said. I sure hope she is voted out. Her way of thinking is pretty terrifying.
Gvl Dad , ok Wow, still on the biomass, which was shuttered in 2017, nearly 8 years ago. Go see the doctor.
The combination of ignorance and arrogance here is truly remarkable. The biomass plant is operating TODAY, and if you doubt it, check the amount spent on biomass fuel in 2024: https://www.gru.com/Portals/0/InvestorRelations/FY24_GRUBudgetBook_Final%20for%20Dist.pdf
Thank you for pointing out the truth to the ignorant.
Paula: Never have I seen so many childish insults as I have here today. Instead of intelligent debate we have supposed grown men men hurling 5th. grade insults at each other….
You need to do your homework. The biomass plant is still operating and GRU ratepayers are still paying the cost of the terrible 30 year contract contract that the “progressive” elitists on Gainesville City Commission signed them up for back in 2009. https://www.gainesville.com/story/news/local/2018/10/24/report-grec-contract-among-countrys-worst/9466096007/
It’s not operating, there was a massive settlement. Others have also pointed to that. It’s been in the news
Not sure who to blame, the county or the city of Alachua but when they started working on phase II of Savannah Station they took out almost every tree in there. They also filled in a large sink hole and built houses on it. I am certainly not anti-development, I just feel that there can be a balance.
I admire Jennifer’s running of this site and have said in my comments so numerous times, but the headline for this is a cheap shot gotcha’ quote which does not do justice to the otherwise intelligent and thorough comments of Comm. Prizza who argued for more lenient enforcement of tree removal and mitigation regulations. Given that she did not move to create citizenship rights for trees in the county, we can take the comment as neither serious or impactful, though of course the usual knuckle draggers who predominate in these comments pounced, that is between racist comments about the East Side (and they wonder why blacks don’t vote GOP).
I expect more from Jennifer and her usually excellent and fair reporting.
“Neither serious or impactful” seems like a pretty good summary of the meeting.
Yes, Jizzle Guzzler, I agree with you it is a cheap shot that Commissioner Pizza eater thinks trees are more valuable than human life.
You must think that Jennifer awaits your approval, like a trained seal hoping to be tossed a sardine from its trainer. How delusional.
They require underground utilities. That’s why tree canopies get replaced by new smaller trees.
They just want to get more campaign donations by both sides.
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What a click bait headline. Diminishes any ‘point’ you’re attempting to make.
Well 35 homes, which is nothing compared to need. They keep waffling on multifamily units. What do they expect?
Sounds like the commissioners are obsessed with “wood”
Words have consequences! Sometimes our words make people look at us and shake their heads! Right Comm. Prizzia? Is this her true feeling, that tree lives are as important as a human beings life?
This BOCC is as much a “fire of the week distraction” organization as the AC School Board! Always something new and only of interest to a small minority (you cannot convince me that all Democrats in AC are tree huggers)!
Size n measurements counts here. 🌳 🌲 🌴 trees are oxygen givers. Breathing carbons. Recycling ♻️
Make the developer pay to replace replant keep all the big ones.
Humans invading the forest for more humans. Pollution did they mention 🤔 Pollution or the
Heat effects of no trees equals sunlight no relief in sight because there are no trees .
Please don’t vote for any of the current, clueless and feckless Commisioners. They have proven they are hell bent on insolvency at all cost for Alachua County Taxpayers.
Funniest and most ridiculous conversation I’ve ever read. LMBO
Didn’t the same group of liberal Democrats push to to have the biomass plant that destroyes our forests within a 75 mile radius of Gainesville??
How about stop approving out-of-control development? Then you’ll save more trees. When I drive by all those expensive developments with their lack of mature shade trees, I shake my head.
I bought my house “used”; it is sandwiched in between 3 mature Live Oaks … when I added an addition, I worked around one of the Live Oaks. I bought a heater for my pool when it was too cold instead of cutting down another Live Oak. I pay $$$$ money every few years to thin the canopy for storm reasons.
Trees are more valuable than another overpriced cookie cutter development for sure
Glad you got yours Trees are more Valuable! Good for you! Everyone one else can piss off, right with ya!