Alachua County Commission votes to advertise ballot referendum for at-large districts, divest from investments in corporations
BY JENNIFER CABRERA
GAINESVILLE, Fla. – At the May 14 Alachua County Commission meeting, the board heard an update on the Florence Landfill, voted to advertise a ballot referendum for at-large County Commission districts, and voted to divest from investments in corporations.
Florence Landfill
After the General Public Comment period, Commissioner Marihelen Wheeler asked County Attorney Sylvia Torres for an update on the Florence Landfill, and Torres said the original parties are in mediation, with a status report due on June 7, “and at that point, they will say whether they’ve come to an impasse or whether they intend to continue to litigate. If they continue to litigate, that would be when we would intervene, because the Court can’t do anything with it right now, anyway.”
Ballot referendum for at-large County Commission districts
Torres told the board that charter amendments can be initiated via an ordinance from the County Commission, via a Charter Review Commission, or via a citizen initiative petition process, and based on direction given to her by the board on April 9, she was requesting approval to advertise a public hearing on June 11 for a vote on the ordinance that would put the referendum on the November ballot.
Torres said the referendum would “return your charter to pre-2022 language [and] would say that all five Commissioners are elected on a county-wide basis by the electors of the county.” She said the “only real decision in this, if you decide to move forward, is whether you want the effective date to be January 1, 2025, or you would like to set it at some earlier date.”
Motion
Commissioner Ken Cornell immediately made a motion to authorize advertisement of the ordinance “which would, if approved by a majority of qualified electors of Alachua County voting in the referendum, amend the charter to return to at-large voting for all County Commission members.”
After the motion was seconded, Cornell said, “Many of the members in my district are not happy with the fact that, during this election, they will not have a voice; they will not be able to vote for any of the three seats. And so I think it is completely appropriate that I represent the folks in my district, listen to them, and put this back on the ballot for the citizens to decide.”
Public comment
During the earlier General Public Comment agenda item, two people spoke about the ballot referendum.
Bill Radunovich complained about “an influx of a large amount of dark money coming into our politics. And that’s, of course, how we got to where we are now, through the use of dark money funding lies and disinformation, dark money and State intervention… Approving this on the ballot for this fall is not an example of trying to get a re-do because, you know, one side lost, but it’s really a way to give the people of the county some time to really debate the issue and make a fully-informed decision, rather than being misled at the last minute by secretly funded campaigns.”
Anthony Johnson said, “This idea that somehow people… are determining their vote based on junk mail, I mean, that is a threat to democracy… If people aren’t smart enough to vote based on the items and issues, they’re the threat to democracy, but I think this is all a red herring… The people want the freedoms that are granted by single-member districts… If you’re not doing your job as a district County Commissioner, the people in the district have a right to fire you.”
During public comment following Cornell’s motion, Kali Blount said the 2022 referendum “passed by something like 2,500 votes. Those two PACs spit out a whole lot of money and sent out thousands and thousands of pieces to try to persuade people, so that vote is damaged and should be re-done in a fair way.”
J. Maggio said, “Every single time you hear somebody say there was an election – in your brain, say, ‘It was an unfair election with misinformation.’ Every time anybody ever says, ‘There already was an election,’ first of all, they should be ashamed of themselves. Shamed. And second of all, you all are going to say, ‘But it was an unfair election with misinformation,’ and they’re going to know you’re thinking that, be embarrassed, and hopefully sit down in shame. Please put this on the ballot.”
Evelyn Foxx, President of the Alachua County branch of the NAACP, said the “misinformation… was particularly in the black community, but it was done all over the county. So we are just delighted that we can go back… and put this amendment on the ballot in November. I don’t understand how people could think that voting for five Commissioners versus one is better.” She said it would be “very, very unfair” if people could only vote for one Commissioner.
Roberta Gastmeyer said she is “a politically active community member,” but “you might find it really strange to know, at this point, that I have no idea which of you lives in my district. And I like it that way. Because when I come to talk to you, I feel like each one of you is my representative and that you feel the same, that you represent me. And so I urge you to pass this today, please, and I look forward to working on the public education campaign so that our community is better educated this time around for the vote.”
Susan Bottcher said, “Let the voters decide. We can have the discussion of the merits of one system versus the other in the coming months, but let’s let the voters decide.”
Bobby Mermer, Coordinator of the Alachua County Labor Coalition, said, “The ACLC supports putting this on the 2024 ballot… But it’s important to remember exactly what happened in 2022. We were told by the bill’s sponsors that the reason we were deciding on this in 2022 was to put the question of Springs County to rest. Springs County supporters, at least publicly, claimed that their biggest concern was representation… The same sponsors, or I should say the sugar daddy of the bill sponsors, turned right around and made this, not an issue of representation but an issue of disinformation, specifically targeting our black community, with local black leaders quoted out of context, the national NAACP’s position on single-member districts out of context because in most places, single-member districts are a necessity to ensure representation of communities of interest that are geographically concentrated, which we don’t have here, right – the context isn’t the same here in Alachua.”
Mermer said that because of the campaign, “People voted in ways that they later regretted… I have never seen a campaign like that before,… which is why we support putting it on the ballot so we can finally, for once, have a fair debate on the merits of at-large districts.”
Tamara Robbins said she comes to a large number of County Commission meetings, and “nobody’s here every three minutes, speaking to their representatives who are all sitting here… Where are they, if they want to be represented?” She said this year is “the test run for a single-member district election, right? 2024… If you all think that single-member districts is going to give you representation, then I would highly expect you would be running some massively qualified candidates, and you would have money being raised, and you are going to show this community why single-member districts gets you representation… Put up or shut up.”
Tyler Foerst said the North Central Florida Labor Council favored putting the referendum on the ballot and said it was “really about a fair democracy and a fair fight. So what we’re asking for is a fair vote, and I don’t think that’s too much to ask for.”
Jo Beaty said there is “no diversity of thought” on the Alachua County Commission, resulting in laughter in the meeting room. She said, “There has already been an election. It was done. I think Ms. Robbins’ point is, it’s an experiment. Let’s see what happens now… Let this election run, let’s see how it goes… You haven’t even had one election this way. I don’t think you should waste any more time, and you should vote this down today.”
Two other women also supported placing the referendum on the ballot.
“What do you mean, I only get to vote for one Commissioner?”
After public comment, Commissioner Anna Prizzia said she’s been knocking on doors, and “again and again and again, I hear, ‘What do you mean, I only get to vote for one Commissioner?… Wait, I’m confused. What district am I in?’… We have an opportunity for people to really get educated and understand the issue and understand the opportunity and for the voters to have a chance to really make this decision with all the information. Because I think that while it was voted on last time, it was done in haste, and it was done with a lot of misinformation out there – that wasn’t in the forums, it wasn’t in the discussions that led up to the election, it was very last-minute, and it was a rushed effort. And there was a lot of money dumped into one side of that. And I can tell you that the voters are confused, the voters did not understand, and the voters are now frustrated.”
Chair Mary Alford said she has had similar experiences “with people being confused and not understanding… I do think the one good thing that’s come out of this is the public education side of it about how elections work, because a lot of people did not understand that.”
Wheeler said it typically takes three votes to pass something, “so if you are voting for all of us, you can assure pretty much that you’re gonna be able to influence enough to get things passed that you’re interested in… But what people are not realizing is that all of these districts intersect in Gainesville. All of them do. And so we’re talking about the bulk of the population of each district being in Gainesville.” She said the election this year will be “an interesting exercise.”
The motion passed 4-0, with Commissioner Chuck Chestnut absent.
Divestment from corporate investments
During commission comment, Cornell made a motion to direct staff to bring back an updated investment policy that would eliminate any corporate investments. At the April 23 County Commission meeting, a member of the public had asked the County to divest from Lockheed Martin because, she said, the company “supplies the Israeli military with fighter jets and missiles.” Cornell followed up on that later in the meeting by saying, “I do not support our investments in any military providers, especially Lockheed Martin, and is there anything we as a board can do to instruct our investors about that?”
Prizzia responded to Cornell’s motion, “I think this is a wise move… It’s not something that we’re required to invest in, or even necessary. And so rather than try to deal with anything that might not be pecuniary or might fall amiss of what the State allows us to do or not do, I think it’s just wise for us to stay the course with the very prudent and thoughtful and conservative investments that we can do and not move on with the corporations.”
In response to a question from Robbins during public comment, Cornell said the board had expanded the authority “a while back because historically, we’ve only invested in U.S. securities, or really preservation and principal type safe bonds. And so this direction would ask the Clerk to bring that back, so that’s all that we could invest in with our monies.”
Alford said she thought they’d only started investing in corporations in “2019 or something – it’s only been just a few years.”
The motion passed 4-0, with Chestnut absent.
Not sure what money you are talking about investing since basically you are broke – Focus on your real responsibilities, our roads and keeping us safe.
You are confusing the County with some other entirety. The County is in strong financial shape and is in the midst os a ten year quarter of a billion dollar roads program. And they fund every aspect of the criminal justice arena.
Truth be told: I see my taxes going up and more vagrants and panhandlers in this county and them wasting my taxpayer money on pandering to the bums…
and now Poe wants to load us up with immigrants that us taxpayers will have to support and pay school taxes on.
With all that money the county has you say, they should double the size of the jail and lock up the criminals longer to protect the public.
Truth be told, if the county’s finances were in order they wouldn’t be sticking us up every two years with some new type of regressive tax.
The idea that the county’s pension plan can remain solvent by investing only in precious metals, bonds, commodities, and crytocurrency is another Cornell/Prizzia fantasy.
The infrastructure sales tax was approved by the voters. The county has no say in pension plan investments as it participates in the state’s FRS pension program.
Don’t know about all, but many corporations are the organizations generating the most profits for their investors and unless your just an idiot, that’s what an investor wants.
“During commission comment, Cornell made a motion to direct staff to bring back an updated investment policy that would eliminate any corporate investments. At the April 23 County Commission meeting, a member of the public had asked the County to divest from Lockheed Martin because, she said, the company “supplies the Israeli military with fighter jets and missiles.”
What’s alarming is because a member of the public, who probably doesn’t work for the county, got all offended about Israel killing a bunch of terrorists and decided to voice her displeasure. Maybe she needs to be sent to Gaza and experience the rape and brutality of Hamas on the Israeli women. Since she sympathizes with Hamas, they may even allow her to not cover her head.
And just like Single Member Districts, the infrastructure sales tax was approved by most of the voters within the county. Guess that misinformation campaign works both ways.
Although, I argree with the wasting of money, you should have your facts correct when you speak about things. The County doesn’t have a pension plan. All County employees are under FRS, which is very well funded. Check your facts please.
The County Roads Department Director told the BOCC he needs $40M per year to keep the roads par, during a joint meeting of the BOCC and City of Newberry.
The County funds the roads in total at about $20M ($8M general fund, $12M from the new Infrastructure Tax).
So they’re still going backwards by 50% each year. Suggesting that a “quarter billion” is large is a missed opportunity. It should be closer to a half billion…..just to stay par. No improvement. Just par.
Why do these totally incompetent Democrats think the people did not speak their minds with the first vote? It seems the Democrats want do overs any time they don’t like the results. But they sure whine and cry if the Republicans complain. Then they persecute and lie about the real truth of the situation.
AC BOCC: “Ok, the people voted for Single Member District once! We don’t like that, we will lose our side income! Let’s vote again and Round Up The Usual Suspects (RUDUS), who support us blindly, to chime in and call for a “do over”, and “2 out of 3 if that doesn’t work!” “After all, it’s our county! Screw the people’s will!”
Roger, the vote last year was forced on the county by the state legislature for partisan reasons. Most counties in Florida, like Alachua was, are not single member districts, yet it alone received this attention from the GOP legislature. So, there was no principled reason for this, just party politics and by people who can’t get elected here.
Compounding this, dark money funded a disinformation campaign which misrepresented what local leaders thought of this action, using quotes from the past and out of context – primarily these quotes of support had to do with whether a black commissioner would be more or less likely to get elected under the 2 options. Besides for directed mailers, billboards were placed on Waldo Road and other east side locations in the last week or 2 of the election, and with no time for those being misquoted to straighten the record. Additionally, by law the County could not lobby for one side on this vote and with the short notice and damn George Soros asleep I guess, there was no campaign opposition to these lies.
There is a principled debate to be had on this issue, so let’s have it without the dirty tricks and purely partisan interest of our gerrymandered legislature.
Remember, Alachua County has been neutered in the state legislature by this gerrymandering. We have one state representative – Hinson – and that’s it. Perry represents a small part of our county but all of Marion and Levy and Clemons similarly a small part of our county and then all of Gilchrist and Levy county. It’s gotten worse. I live 2.5 miles from Gainesville city limits, and while these guys used to be my representative and senator, my representative now is in freaking McClenny and my senator in Orange Park. This is a bad joke, the legislature and governor are screwing us, and they’re afraid of fair representation
Dude we have tried to have principled debate with the commission for over 15 years. We have raised the issue at Charter Reviews, have done multiple petition campaigns as well as directly asked the BoCC to put the measure on the ballot simply so the county can vote…. 15 years and they would not engage in “Principled Debate” and even insulted a group of HS students that put a petition campaign together. You obviously have your head up the BoCC’s sphincter, because I don’t recall any Democrat asking for a “Principled Debate” prior to 2022. As far as “Dark Money” you better look into the Democrat funding sources and you will see plenty of the same. “Dark Money” is not something singularly owned by Republicans. Go ahead and be a hypocrite about that dark money. As far as the congressional districts go, You could only vote for one State representative regardless of how many State Representatives districts intersect Alachua County. Representative Hinson didn’t win the majority vote from Marion County, does that make her an illegitimate winner? Does that mean she can’t represent the area in Marion County that falls within her district? And if your claim is that the redistricting had something to do with racial motivations, the Federal three-judge panel composed of a W. Bush, Trump and Obama-appointee, concluded that the plaintiffs “have not proven that the Legislature acted with race as a motivating factor in passing the Enacted Map.” The ruling added that “[t]he plaintiffs freely concede there is no direct or circumstantial evidence of racially discriminatory purpose on the part of any member of the Florida Legislature.”
very interesting that so far 2 people don’t like facts…. But you know that there will be “dark money” funding the campaign to get rid of SMD
Tiring, sorry you find reasoned debate so taxing, but perhaps you should have run candidates for the commission who promised to support SMD or putting them on the ballot. Not getting things you want on the ballot is not proof of malfeasance or a failure of democracy, but a proof of it’s effectiveness. Again I note that most Florida counties do not have SMDs, yet blue Alachua County was singled out – no pun intended –
by the overly red state legislature to force a ballot initiative, and this was instigated by a state Rep and and State senator who can’t get elected here. That’s why our county and it’s 158,000 registered voters have no state senator and 1 state rep, and no say in the state government. Those are facts. Sorry if they tire you out.
As to racial motivations in the legislature forcing this referendum, I have not alleged that, nor has anyone I know of. It is a fact however that the very black leaders your party knowingly misquoted in it’s well funded campaign all opposed SMDs because they thought/think it less likely that black candidates could SMD seats . You may or may not agree with that – fine. By how does that justify lying about their positions.
On “dark money”, please post some data on your allegation. You do know I hope that Perry got $100,000 illegally from FPL in his 2018 campaign which was used for dirty tricks similar to the lying campaign on SMDs you seem to support. Here, read about it:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article264196761.html
Hope you get the rest you clearly need.
Like the Miami Herald is a reliable source.
Since when should five very biased people decide how to invest the taxpayers’ money? They are not looking out for the citizens, but only their own political agenda.
The ignorance and fealty of the liberal left never ceases to amaze me.
Divesting from Lockheed Martin does provide some insight as to the left’s condoning and leniency of crimes though. If they’re willing to turn a blind eye to the brutal assault on the Israeli women and children and the atrocities committed against them, is it any wonder the crimes they refuse to acknowledge here at home? Maybe they should take a look at the UN’s revised numbers and ask why Hamas was in a UN compound. It’s unfortunate and sad our County leaders are more supportive of a terrorist organization than they are for our very own local residents and state government.
The idiots speaking out against “dark money” influencing policy are obviously showing their hypocrisy. It was all okay until it didn’t go the way they wanted and now their panties are all in a wad. Glad little Kenny is just tall enough to pull them out of their arses. Prizzia, or is it Cornell, is really worried she won’t be the popular choice in the more conservative rural areas? She’s a cancer to the county, some know it – the idiots don’t.
Show you’re not an idiot, get rid of her and the rest of these far left knuckleheads.
Single member districts are supposed to provide better accountability so voters in a district know that a commissioner will truly represent them.
Single member districts are especially important for unincorporated areas of the county. Us unincorporated folks have no one in our corner and it shows with all of the sprawl without proper infrastructure. At least Newberry has a mayor and set of commissioners fighting for them.
No one seems to mind single member districts for the City of Gainesville but for the current BOCC this will be the end of their world. Maybe they know that if they actually had to represent the district they claim to live in they might have never gotten elected.
Typical Democrats. If they don’t approve of the people’s vote do it again until they get their way. Corrupt. The citizens should not put up with it.
The BOCC working to defeat single member districts is a huge conflict of interest!
Gainesville residents should not be able to choose all of the County Commissioners for every district.
It’s like 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner. Sure, there’s a vote, but it’s not a appropriate election.
Mom, most counties in Florida ARE NOT SMD. Why did the state single out Alachua County to impose a referendum on it and then the ruling party flooded the area with lies.
As to the alleged conflict of interest, the county was not allowed by law to counter this misinformation campaign by overlords in Newberry and Tallahassee and will similarly be restrained in a new referendum.
It’s back on the ballot because hundreds of thousands of dollars of dark money were spent on a dishonest campaign supposedly looking out for black voters. If anyone thinks that the people who organized this were looking out for the African American community, I have a bridge you might be interested in.
And if you actually believe the Commission actually cares more about the outlying and predominantly minority communities than their own embedded political futures you’re an even bigger idiot than you make yourself out to be.
You always speak so confidently about topics you are clearly confused about. Now that the dirty tricksters will have to deal with the other side having the time and money to educate voters on the advantages of at-large voting, the dark money pawns are wailing and gnashing their teeth about fairness. Hilarious. By the way, 40 of Florida counties, most with republican majorities, vote at large. Staford Jones, who created the disinformation campaign here, led the campaign in Sarasota County to eliminate single-member districts.
You and your doublespeak only seek to confuse those likely to be most affected by the continued lack of representation. What’s not confusing is the extent the liberal lemmings will go to get a “do over.” Your claim to “Truth be told” is quite disingenuous seeing as how you choose to only provide a predetermined politically biased narrative that falsely asserts certain groups will have 5 representatives. Tell us how 5 representatives, who by their own actions and words lean far to the left, are going to have the best interests of the residents of Archer, Newberry or the Northern outskirts of High Springs and Santa Fe.
Answer this, if Single Member Districts wins out again, will you and those you bow to accept the results or will you again cry foul because you didn’t get your way?
If ever there was evidence of the intellectual dishonest of democrats.
After this was passed the commission said it would work to reverse this process.
Elected officials should be elected by the people within their district. It holds them accountable and ensures the views of the people of those communities are heard.
1. The ACLC is a commi organization…they pushed for that landlord ordinance in GNV and it made rents go up‼️
2. what’s the NAACP doing about all the crime and gun violence on the east side? They should be focusing on that‼️
It’s not in the best business interest for advocacy groups to solve problems they bring up. Similar to pharma pushing for treatments not cures and the Homeless Industrial Complex in Gainesville
I have the answer to #2.
Those who can; the Chestnuts, Blounts & Hinsons, are hiding in their enclaves. Those who don’t have that luxury are more focused on dodging bullets.
If the County was really interested in giving truthful information about the advantage of Single Member Districts, it would inform the voters that an elected individual from the community he or she resides in would be representing them. Many in the County have already attested to the fact that the population mass lies within Gainesville. Everyone knows that same population is 75 – 80% liberal and they will vote for whoever has a “D” behind their name. (D for dummy?)
That’s a pretty good indication that although they are somewhat truthful about being able to vote for all 5 commissioners, the rural, more conservative voting public will be disenfranchised because that majority liberal population base will impose their ideologies on smaller populations. I believe some in the Newberry schools have already expressed their disappointment in how that’s worked out for them.
It boils down to one thing, do you want an elected representative who is elected amongst yourselves, or a representative who represents those who have no connection to the neighborhood other than going to the springs or driving through on their way to the Atlantic or Gulf coasts.
It is, and should be your choice who you feel will provide your voice for the neighborhood you live. Not the person who lives in a 6000 sq ft home on the edge of a lake.
For the original single member district vote, East Siders contributed much to the result–they were tired of having their voice and perspective diluted by the county-wide at-large system. Hopefully they will still see it that way.
And this is why single voter districts are important.
Everyone should have a voice from where they live.
With at large voting people lose that ability to be heard.
Should someone from Newberry or the North West side of Gainesville speak for the Eastern side of Alachua County?
Or should the Eastern side of Alachua County speak for the rest of the county?
The districts need to reflect the community. The elected official needs to come from that community.
Single-member districts include US Senate, US House, Florida Senate, Florida House, and 4 out of 7 Gainesville City Commission seats.
At large districts include the School Board and 3 out of 7 Gainesville City Commission seats.
I see merit to both systems, but single-member districts appear to be the most common system in most levels of government.
Matthew, most counties in Florida are not SMDs. That does not mean at-large commissioners is a better system, but it does prove the partisan nature of the GOP state government imposing a referendum on blue Alachua County.
“Misinformation” & Sales Tax:
If we redo the single member vs at-large referendum, do we also redo the sales tax referendum?
Many felt the advertising campaign for the sales tax was misleading:
1) The term ‘Wild Spaces Public Places” was used even though the tax added money for other purposes.
2) Advertising by US mail and social media played up land conservation yet did not focus on the other purposes. Tgere was little mention of the fact that the land conservation and recreation programs already existed and did not expire for 2 more years. Nor did the campaign highlight the fact the tax increase (from 0.5 cents to 1 cent) was for other purposes.
My take-home point is that iif our county redoes referenda because some believe voters were misinformed or uninformed, they should redo the sales tax referendum too.
Great point!