GRU Authority hears from public about fluoride, pushes back on claims made by opponents of the board

The GRU Authority met on February 12

BY JENNIFER CABRERA

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – At their February 12 meeting, the GRU Authority heard public comment about fluoride and expressed reluctance to make any changes, heard updates on lawsuits against the Authority and pushed back against opponents of the board, and heard financial and operational reports.

City Clerk objects to policy on public records requests

The consent agenda included the creation of GRU’s Office of People Resources and the accompanying People Policies for human resources, “separate and distinct from the City of Gainesville’s long-standing human resources policies.” The Public Records policy establishes a Records Management Liaison Officer, designated by GRU’s CEO, but does not name that person.

Gainesville City Clerk Kristen Bryant spoke during public comment on the agenda and said she had given the board a 20-page document that detailed the City’s and State’s policies and processes on public records, compared with the one-and-a-half pages of GRU’s policy. She said the policy leaves “blanks and vagaries and staff not knowing exactly what is needed to be done” and doesn’t list the custodian of public records, which is required for notice of lawsuits. She also said the policy requires mandatory training but removed the word “annually,” which introduces risk since the statutes are updated every year.

GRU CEO Ed Bielarski responded that the HR People Policy was intended to be non-prescriptive, and “we plan to incorporate all the items that the City Clerk has discussed in our procedures, so it just isn’t in the overriding document… And I’d also indicate that we’ve been handling public records for a long time in the organization, and we have institutional knowledge here of how that’s performed and accomplished.”

A motion to approve the agenda passed unanimously.

Haslam criticizes lawsuits, says opponents “want political control over GRU and its revenues

During Chair Comment, Chair Ed Lawson asked if any board member wanted to make a comment, and Director David Haslam brought up a new lawsuit “that mirrors the original lawsuit, and… I’m going to read just some of it… ‘Historically, GRU and its operations have played an outsized role within the City, and particularly, the City has regularly withdrawn revenues from GRU, deposited into the City’s General Transfer Fund. It’s universally understood that Gainesville cannot serve its current level of services without a significant transfer contribution from GRU. In short, Gainesville would not be the cultural and educational jewel that it is without political control over GRU and its revenues.'”

Haslam said he had been asking what everybody wants, and “there are certainly people who’ve said they want political control over GRU and its revenues. Ok, so now I know what you want. Having said that, when the politicians were in charge of GRU – because we’re not politicians; we’re a board – … it just quickly kind of became communism. They just sort of did what they want and they took what they want.” He referred to the amounts that various people have claimed were taken by the City above GRU’s profits, ranging from $30 million to $68 million: “Even if it was only $30 million, that’s still irresponsible… I want to keep the customers first… We are still a business here.” 

Haslam said that with “a lot of nonsense in the air – political this, steal money, take money,” it’s hard to hire and keep good employees at GRU. He said he wants to produce “affordable and eco-friendly power… We’re not anti-solar. We’re not anti-healthy electric, I think we all want that, but it’s got to be economically friendly… I want to lower the debt… I would like to lower the bills to the customers… We’re local guys. You still have local control, and we still give to the Transfer Fund.” 

Haslam said the board has public meetings and listens to public comments and added, “Are we gonna give you everything? Probably not.” He said it would be nice to make enough profit to give the City the large transfer they want, but his priority is to reduce bills. 

Haslam concluded, “But we’ve got to stop wasting time. We’ve got to stop talking about the same thing every meeting… There’s been a lawsuit ever since the… last board started,… the same old stuff… We’re all volunteers up here… We’re all doing this for the betterment, hopefully, of the community.”

Fluoride is again a topic during public comment

During general public comment, four people again asked the board to put removing fluoride from the drinking water on a future agenda. Chris Russell said, “What I’m asking here tonight is not… to stop fluoridating the water. I’m asking you to do the research, do your due diligence.”

After public comment, Director Craig Carter said he was “listening to everybody – and I’m actually reading, and I’m doing my homework, trust me, and I do think this is something we’re going to be talking about relatively soon, but we’re not hitting [the limit for fluoride] on a consistent basis.”

Lawsuit updates

During Attorney Comments, GRUA Attorney Scott Walker said that both the Authority and the City of Gainesville have filed motions for summary judgment in the Authority’s lawsuit challenging the City Commission’s ballot referendum to regain governance of the utility. Judge George Wright has entered a temporary injunction preserving the status quo, and a hearing will be held on April 2. 

Walker said the new lawsuit, filed by Jason Bellamy-Fults and Bobby Mermer against the Authority and each individual director, asks for a Writ of Quo Warranto that would order the directors to disband the board and restore control of the utility to the City Commission. Walker said his firm would be “vigorously defending” the Authority and the directors in that lawsuit. Both cases are assigned to the same judge. 

Chair Eric Lawson said, “I believe that all these lawsuits are harming GRU, and they’re also harming our customers… I think we need to be explaining who’s suing us and the cost that our customers are having to pay for this.”

GRU’s financial position

In a presentation on the utility’s financial position, Director of Accounting & Finance Mark Benton said the utility was running very close to its budget after the first quarter of FY2025. The utility is also continuing to pay off debt at an accelerated pace, with $30 million in debt reduction projected for FY2025; Benton said the reason FY2024 was higher was that the utility sold its trunk radio system for $8 million and put all of that toward debt reduction.

Debt reduction from FY22 to FY25

Bielarski said, “I just want you all to remember: that’s where the GFT (General Fund Transfer) reduction is going… When you hear folks talk about how they want the GFT to go back to the City, well, at the previous levels, we wouldn’t be able to do this.”

Carter agreed, “I don’t think most people understand how important it is that we get our debt down, what it means to our bond ratings and everything else… We’re making a better utility, a better business, by reducing debt… You might not see it today in your electric bill, but you will see it years from now.”

Benton said that reducing the debt also helps the utility’s liquidity metrics, which gives them financial flexibility to respond to a financial crisis. He continued, “You’ve all read all the rating agency reports, and each and every rating agency report, that’s the first thing they talk about. It’s the fact that GRU is highly leveraged, and we need to address that if we want to look at a potential rating increase in the future.”

Audit had no findings

In between agenda items, Bielarski told the board that an outside audit had just been completed, and there were no findings. 

Operational update

During a presentation on the State of the Utility for December 2024, Chief Operating Officer Tom Brown said the Deerhaven Renewable Generating Station returned to service on January 29 following an extended outage that included the unplanned replacement of turbine blades. He added that the plant now ramps up more smoothly than it did before the outage, and the peak output is now 105 MW, compared to the previous 102 MW. The Kelly plant will begin a planned outage on February 23 and will be out of service for several months.

The report included a chart (shown below) that was removed from the operational reports under previous General Manager Tony Cunningham; the chart provides data that allows for calculations of CO2 emissions per megawatt by plant and shows that Deerhaven Renewable, which was built to move the City toward its goal of zero emissions by 2045, has roughly twice the CO2 emissions per megawatt of the other plants; in fact, Deerhaven Renewable emits almost three times as much CO2 per megawatt as the Kelly plant.

Slides from December 2024 State of the Utility presentation

As we wrote in 2023, “GRU has in the past stated that biomass can be considered carbon-neutral because the federal Environmental Protection Agency sent a letter to Congress supporting that view in 2018, ‘provided the use of forest biomass does not cause conversion of forests to non-forest use.’ The U.S. Energy Information Administration adds, ‘the plants that are the source of biomass for energy capture almost the same amount of CO2 through photosynthesis while growing as is released when biomass is burned.'” However, a Scientific American article published in 2018 questions the conclusion that biomass plants are carbon-neutral.

Natural gas supply agreement

The board unanimously adopted a resolution authorizing participation in natural gas supply agreements with the Municipal Gas Authority of Georgia. Annual savings from the agreement are projected to be between $1.1 million and $1.8 million. 

Skinner: Critics are “blindly ignoring the past two decades of City Commission practices”

During Director Comments, Director Chip Skinner said that comments claiming the Authority is “robbing the City of funds” are “blindly ignoring the past two decades of City Commission practices through which the City took GRU profits, they left us with a $2.5 billion biomass PPA, and they forced GRU customers to cover the costs, resulting in our highest electric rates. And then we hear also that this streetlight agreement, that we’re robbing money out of the GFT for streetlights – this is an agreement that was in place and signed by the City Commission,… so we’re just holding their feet to the fire on that.”

Regarding accusations of “groupthink,” Skinner said the directors are not allowed to discuss GRU issues outside of meetings: “Thankfully, we all have good common sense… We have a great organization here with the professionals, and we are not going to sit idly by, no matter what organization wants us to resign. We have to continue to do this work… We understand people aren’t happy with all of our decisions. It’s impossible to make everyone happy, so we pick and choose what we can do to benefit the most amount of people at any given time.”

Carter: “Please bear with us as we figure out how to bring the rates down”

Carter thanked GRU employees for “making our jobs so much easier.” He said that although “rates are a little high,… we have great service… Please bear with us as we figure out how to bring the rates down for our employees and our ratepayers.”

Haslam on fluoride: “I don’t know enough, and some of the people speaking don’t know enough.”

Haslam said, “The fluoride, the water thing, keeps getting brought up. I don’t know enough about it to speak directly on it. I made a joke last month. It didn’t go well on social media. I don’t know enough to really speak on it, but some of the information that was given tonight – while they were talking, I pulled out my phone, and they’re wrong, and then you corrected one of them too; they’re wrong. So I don’t know enough, and some of the people speaking don’t know enough. I don’t want to waste a bunch of GRU time on it yet. I’m gonna do some more personal research, and then, you know, there’s something that needs to be addressed. I think we can, but it’s got to be off of honest input and data.”

Jacobs on fluoride: “As far as I’m concerned, fluoridation was looked at as one of the modern miracles like the polio vaccine or pasteurizing dairy products”

Director Jack Jacobs said, “I’d like to address the fluoridation issue, too. And I look at it this way: every week, I put muriatic acid in my pool, and I certainly don’t want to drink it, and I wouldn’t want to get it on my skin. It burns holes in my clothes when I splash it on me. But I’m not afraid that when I get in the pool that, you know, my kids can’t swim around and swallow some water and it’s going to affect them long term. So although these chemicals may individually have caustic properties to them and stuff like that,… you know, fluoride, we’re talking the miniscule amounts that we’re adding to what’s already naturally occurring in the water. As far as I’m concerned, fluoridation was looked at as one of the modern miracles like the polio vaccine or pasteurizing dairy products. So when you’ve got something like that, you really need some hard evidence to switch.”

Jacobs added, “I relate it to, like, eggs and butter and margarine, like every other year, margarine is bad for you, and then butter is good for you, or eggs are bad, or then they’re good. I just hate for us to go and make a snap decision and take fluoridation out of the water,… and I appreciate Carter having the Harvard dentist come here, who’s not only just from Harvard but he actually did the peer-reviewed research. If you know anything about research, you want to have peer-reviewed research to back up your data if you’re going to start making arguments about whether or not we should do fluoridation. So I appreciate you doing that.”

Carter replied, “He insisted, actually,… but he’s got sharp bits in my mouth, I do whatever he says.”

Jacobs continued, “So I’m not there yet… I may change my mind if other research comes up, but I just don’t see it yet.”

Lawson on fluoride: “I completely concur with how you’re thinking about this”

Lawson closed the meeting by saying, “I completely concur with how you’re thinking about this, and with that, we’re adjourned.”

  • Please DO
    NOT even consider fluoride in our water. Haven’t we
    had enough of chemicals been shoved down our throats.
    No, no and no.

      • guest – You are out of touch. Try to get a well permit for a normal lot and see how far you get. Unless you live in the sticks or have a several acre lot you will not be permitted to dig a well.

        Stop dumping industrial waste in our public water system. You take care of your own health and I’ll do the same…Mind your own damn business

        • why dont you mind your own business? If you feel so strongly against fluoride in your water then exercise your own free will and liberty and buy a filter or bottled water. Keep your anti-science hands off the public. Dentists will thank you.

          • You can’t filter out fluoride without reverse osmosis. That’s unaffordable to most. The latest science says fluoride is neurologically harmful.

            I do buy bottled water but I’m tired of wasting money and energy on it because of a$$holes like you. You really think I’d let my little girls drink the crap from the tap?

            I do mind my own business,,.I damn sure don’t force medical services on others. What makes you think you can provide medical services from a water system? Are you that insane? You’re either naive or on the take. If your teeth are jacked up that’s on you. We don’t have issues with our mouths and have been adamantly against fluoridation of all kinds for over a decade. We also take our health in to our own hands and eat properly. You just want government and chemicals because you are probably lazy and sickly

          • Tony —
            You said “Keep your anti-science hands off the public. Dentists will thank you.“

            Why would dentists want a population full of perfect teeth? Wouldn’t that put them out of business?

            You people are beyond brainwashed.

        • The way it was explained to me is, fluoride on the teeth is good, and practically all toothpaste has fluoride these days. When ingested, though, not only does fluoride damage the body and mind, but it provides much less protection to the teeth.

  • Haslam said he had been asking what everybody wants, and “there are certainly people who’ve said they want political control over GRU and its revenues. Ok, so now I know what you want. Having said that, when the politicians were in charge of GRU – because we’re not politicians; we’re a board – … it just quickly kind of became communism. They just sort of did what they want and they took what they want.”
    Emphasis on “POLITICAL CONTROL” over GRU and its revenues. So they can continue to waste and spend on their BS personal agendas.

    Looks like the lying Liberal Loons still have their panties all up in a wad and their lemmings still believing in their fiscal incompetence.
    One would think the lemmings would know better than to believe everything the liars in City Hall and their proponents tell them, but I guess they’ll never learn.

  • They’re smart for reducing the debt. If we want GRU to stay modern, buy and make more power in the future, it’ll have to be while paying debt down. Creditors like that.
    Do opponents of the Board want GRU to disappear instead? Well that’s what’ll happen if the City kept eating its profits. I’m sorry but we aren’t a wealthy city that can afford everything big cities do (and citizens still flee from, due to politics).

    • Yes.
      1) Finally with City Commissioners out of the GFT business, there is a focus on “real” debt reductions. The high leverage was near extreme levels IMHO. Very happy to see it going the other way!
      2) Not even Obama had biomass on his carbon/environment plan in the end. “Carbon Neutral” a total fallacy as the carbon that would be released naturally as the tree dies and rots over ~100 years is released in a minute or two. It was all a sham, backed up with lies.
      3) Fluoride is proven to harden teeth and prevent cavities but how it affects your body & health over time is not completely understood or agreed by all. I would be against it for those reasons. Fluoride rinses are widely available and cheap for all who desire it.

  • The only responsibility of a public water company is to reliably supply the purest, safest potable water it can. The company has no reason or right to medicate the population with anything. The chemical form GRU adds to the 8 billion gallons a year of water it supplies is made from phosphate-industry toxic waste. GRU is required to list it as an inorganic contaminant, 99% of which is not swallowed by people.

    That industry has amassed two dozen mountains of toxic waste in Florida and keeps looking for more ways to get rid of it beyond selling it to most US water companies. In recent news, it’s being tried as radioactive road material and in injection wells in Florida, irreversibly, same as in public water supplies.

    This is not 1949, when GRU began medicating the water supply without population studies, much less informed consent. This is 2025, with fluoride easily and cheaply available in toothpaste and other products in addition to crops grown and food and drinks made with fluoridated water, plus natural fluoride in water.

    GRU directors, like city commissioners before them, have received ways to access research going back decades on effects of natural and unnatural fluoride in humans and other species. In contrast, supporters of adding fluoridation chemicals to water supplies still have no way to correlate them to the number of tooth cavities in ever-changing populations anywhere. The variables of human health are infinite.

    Besides scientific studies are those pointing out ethical and legal violations of medical practice and environmental protection. Sorry for this epic-length comment. I just don’t understand how this practice keeps going and getting defended.

    • GRU never decided to add fluoride; It was politicians, who are usually totally inept at anything medical or financial.

      In addition, Democrat run GNV commissions have never reduced their spending, not one penny. To make up the money they were stealing from GRU ratepayers, they raised property taxes 19% when the money from GRU was drastically reduced. And idiots want to let them resume ruining GRU?

    • But you’re forgetting how gov’t and campaign donors benefit from more sick people. 👿👹

  • The same group of people who support forced vaccinations also support forced fluoridation. They act like high priests and believe they should have control over others. It’s a mental illness.

    • Question for the Dude: This means you are 100% pro choice, right? Just checking.

      • I think all murder should be illegal. I think unborn children are still living. I have children and saw them alive prior to birth via ultrasound scans.

        I don’t believe you nor anyone else has the right to force chemicals on others. Whether via injections or the water system or any other way.

        I’m not sure why you are conflating forcing chemicals on people and snuffing a baby out. No the same!

        I’m also not advocating for government control of abortion. I’m advocating to remove industrial waste from our public water supply. Get beyond the political divide before you drown in partisan ignorance.

  • When it comes to fluoride,
    “dilution is the solution to pollution”.
    Fluoride is a poison that they get rid of by putting it in the water supply…now you know.

  • “…when the politicians were in charge of GRU – because we’re not politicians; we’re a board – … it just quickly kind of became communism.… We are still a business here.”

    Dude, “politicians” in this case were the elected leaders, you know, like in a democracy? D..e..m..o..c..r..a..c..y. Got it?

    And no, while you are not a business, there is one similarity. Businesses are meant to turn a profit which then accrues to it’s owners or stock holders. You do know who owns GRU, right? The citizens of Gainesville who elected their CC in a “Democracy” (see above), not Ron DeSantis, Chuck Clemons, Sen Perry. They were elected by the citizens of Gilchrist, Marion, and Levy County.

    No one elected you dummy, so get the hell out and work on electing someone you agree with, because that is not the owners of GRU.

  • Deerhaven Renewal (biomess) emits 2-3 times more CO2 than the other coal fired plants.
    DHR was built for 200 million. We paid close to 1 billion in the process of buying it.
    To get a plant emiting 2-3 times the CO2, and costs several times the market rate of electricity generated.
    Classic case of D mismanagement
    Ah but we’re like Austin TX—–which shut down its biomess after 6 months because the electricity cost 4 times the going rate

  • >