School Board Member Tina Certain’s statements to the media about Newberry Community School are misleading

School Board Member Tina Certain waits to speak at the February 26 Florida Charter School Review Commission meeting

BY AMBER THIBODAUX

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – On February 26, The Gainesville Sun published an article with the headline “Questions remain despite state approval of Newberry charter school initiative.” The article included some misleading quotes from School Board of Alachua County (SBAC) Member Tina Certain regarding statements made during the charter review hearing that took place in Orlando last week.

Did the Charter School Review Commission welcome public comment from both sides?

“School Board member Tina Certain, who attended Wednesday’s meeting in Orlando, told The Sun that an individual who worked for the Charter School Review Commission advised those in favor of the charter conversion not to bother filling out comment cards because a decision had already been made.

“‘I’m very disappointed with the decision,’ Certain said. ‘It was decided before we got there.'”

– The Gainesville Sun, Feb. 26

Certain told the Sun that an individual who worked for the Charter School Review Commission (CSRC) advised those in favor of the charter conversion “not to bother filling out comment cards because a decision had already been made.” The Sun then quoted Certain directly: “I’m very disappointed with the decision. It was decided before we got there.”

However, the CSRC repeatedly encouraged public comment throughout the hearing and specifically invited representatives from both the SBAC and the Newberry Community School Board to address the commission. The CSRC asked numerous questions and deliberated amongst themselves before holding a vote at the end of the hour-long hearing. 

Before the meeting started, Florida Department of Education Director of School Choice Adam Emerson advised the attendees to fill out a public comment card if they’d like to speak during the hearing. 

Brandy Oldman, for example, filled out a comment card, and as she walked up to speak, CSRC Chairman John-Anthony Boggess reminded the attendees: “I would ask anyone else who wants to make a public comment at this time, please receive a public comment card.”

Immediately following Oldman’s comments, Boggess again asked if there were any other public comments for the “Newberry application.”

Prior to Oldman’s comments, Boggess told the attendees: “We will first hear from the Department of Education and the Charter Institute on the review of the application and the recommendation being made to this commission. They will have a combined five minutes to speak. The applicant, if present, also will be provided five minutes to give an overview of the application. The district, with whom the school would, if approved, enter into a charter agreement, will also be provided five minutes to address the commission, only to the input that the district provided during the application period. Throughout all of this, I’m encouraging my colleagues on this commission to ask probing questions – clarifying questions – that are going to be in the best interest of our students here within that school, to probe and to make sure that we have all the facts and information that you need to make the most important decision, and that is the student achievement of our children.”

Following the presentations by both SBAC and the NCS board, Boggess again encouraged the CSRC to ask questions of the applicants of the conversion charter: “It is now our turn to deliberate, and I do want to encourage you to ask questions of the applicant or the review team, the Charter Institute. This is a fact-finding mission, and it is upon us to hear the recommendations from staff to come to a high-stakes decision for this applicant and for this district.” 

Did the vote by teachers meet the threshold for approval?

“Certain also said that an attorney for the Charter Review Commission advised members to proceed with the vote despite acknowledging that the vote held in April would not be valid based on the the rule change approved by the Board of Education in August because it could not be made retroactive.” – The Gainesville Sun, Feb. 26

While the attorney did say that, that wasn’t his conclusion. The issue is that exactly 50% of the Newberry Elementary School teachers voted for the charter conversion, and the relevant Department of Education rule said the vote required a majority; however, the statute says 50% of the vote is sufficient.

James Richmond, Deputy General Counsel for the Florida Department of Education, told the CSRC, “The statute says clearly that at a minimum, 50% of the vote is sufficient to move an application forward. When that statute was initially implemented by the Department of Education, it was translated into ‘a majority vote’ was required. That remained dormant for many years, but this case came along and brought to our attention that the rule deviated from the statute. We immediately moved to amend that rule, but it was after this vote was taken, so we cannot apply that rule retrospectively, as amended. However, in this case, it would still be my recommendation that we recognize the statutory criteria that the legislature has adopted.”

Richmond continued, “The case law is clear, and I believe much of it is cited in the letter filed on behalf of the school. Statutes basically supersede rules when the two are inconsistent. That’s largely because… rules are a result of statutory authority that the legislature has granted to agencies, so agencies are obligated to implement those statutes as written. As you can see here, we’re not always perfect, no one is, and no one recognized this for many years. But when push comes to shove and these matters land before tribunals as well as courts,… the court system has consistently recognized that the statute is the appropriate one to follow. So my recommendation in this matter is that we approve the vote since 50% were in favor of the application.”

After Shawn Arnold, representing the Newberry Community School board, supported Richmond’s position and Amy Envall, acting on behalf of SBAC, said the district’s position is that the charter conversion was not approved, a motion was made to accept Richmond’s recommendation, and the motion passed unanimously.

Is the partnership between the charter school and the City of Newberry legal?

Certain has also challenged the legality of the conversion charter, arguing multiple times during the hearing that the charter should fall under a “municipal” rather than a charter conversion. The Sun attributed the following quote to Certain: 

“A municipal charter is not allowed under the current law. This charter conversion is masquerading as a group of small parents [sic] leading the charge and it is not. The city has pledged a lot of money behind this charter and that is the opposite of how charter schools are funded; they are funded by the Florida Department Finance Program.” – The Gainesville Sun, Feb. 26

Florida Statute 1002.33, which addresses charter schools, does not include any prohibitions against cities being part of a conversion charter effort. Conversion charter schools are defined as “traditional public schools that have been converted to charter schools. The school must have operated for at least two years as a traditional public school (including a school-within-a-school) in a school district before conversion.”

Applications for a conversion may be made by a parent, teacher, principal, district school board, or school advisory council. In the case of the Newberry charter, all three applications were filed by parents of children who attended one of the three Newberry schools. 

According to the Florida Department of Education website, the definition of a municipal charter is as follows: “Charter schools in a municipality are sponsored by local school districts in partnership with a municipality. Such schools enroll students based upon a random lottery that involves all of the children of the residents of the municipality and according to the racial/ethnic balance reflective of the community or other public schools in the same school district.”

The CSRC discussed the issue and concluded that the distinction is whether the governing board is the municipality or an independent board, and in this case the governing body is an independent board that has “partnered” with the City of Newberry. One CSRC member said, “This is not run by or secretly run by the City. On the face of it, I do not see that that is the case. It appears there’s a partnership.”

Certain predicts that the district will need to file a lawsuit

In a February 28 post in the Facebook group “Save Our Schools Newberry” (shown below), Certain commented, “I’m pretty sure we’re gonna have to file a lawsuit.” The post referenced documents reportedly submitted to SBAC regarding the legality of the charter school initiative. 

Certain did not respond to Alachua Chronicle’s email about whether the quotes in the Sun were accurate.

  • Ahh Tina… when are you gonna learn social media will bite you in the ass, man? And since when do you speak for all 5 board members, I know not ALL agree with you. You mention in your speech at the committee vote the loss of funds $7million/yr but one could argue your board has been the root cause of the initiative and successful conversion. You suing will only deprive more money from other students in the county and teachers of that desired raise, how are you going to explain that to other parents and teachers?
    But please go ahead sue but don’t be surprised when more parents take action and FL state DOE comes looking to the mismanagement and neglect on behalf of you and the other board members. I personally can’t wait to see the tidal wave of other conversions to come after this school is a huge success. God bless the parents who did this for the betterment of our youth and teachers in Newberry.

    • It is sad that Tina and the rest of SBAC consider this BS as a primary problem, with the gigantic failure they have made of our schools. They ‘certainly’ don’t show the intelligence to properly distribute the $600 Million budget they have for this small county.

      They seem concerned about losing control of a single school, but are unable to govern what they already have. No rational support plan for their employees. Low pay. No rational discipline plan. Not to mention a workable plan, SBAC (especially Certain and McNealy) don’t have any reasonable plan to encourage more participation in learning by the very people we read about every day who commit the majority of crimes here.

  • Most of know politicians tend to mislead the voting public in an effort to gain their trust.
    She certainly does that quite often.

  • Ms. Certain’s only interest in blocking Newberry from leaving the ACPS grip is a loss of funding and control. She, along with her partner in crime, Dr. (I wrote a paper) McNealy, have been sucking Taxpayer money as School Board Members since 2018 and 2016! Doubt it? Here is the link to the SBAC page, do the math yourself: https://fl02219191.schoolwires.net/Page/2879

    Ms. Certain and Dr. McNealy (as do the other SBAC accomplices) collect over $40K annually and the result of their “effort” has been a school system that is on their 4th Superintendent since 2019, overall student achievement grades are failing to the tune of 46% of students below level 3 in English Language Arts Assessment, nearly 47% of students below level 3 in Math, 43% of students below level 3 in Science, and 34% of students below level 3 in Social Studies based on 2023 – 2024 Assessment results. They cannot blame this failure on teachers, whom they don’t want to pay a decent salary to, the schools are working with what they have and the lack of support when it comes to discipline and attendance focus at the District and SBAC level! In all the years these two failures have been on the SBAC, they have not supported any Student Discipline policy that truly will weed out the students sitting in class only to socialize, bully, or disrupt learning for others in general.

    Here is the link to the Know Your School Portal containing the above data: https://edudata.fldoe.org/ReportCards/Schools.html?school=0000&district=01

    You’ll have to scroll down the page to the link for: Assessments – Academic Achievement, Growth, and Participation (Achievement Levels 1-5)

    These two have done everything they could do the past 8 and 12 years respectively, to provide a babysitting service for parents who have condemned their children to the same dead end life they have. These are parents who are the first to claim their children are being singled out for their looks, rather than a lack of accepted social skills and self discipline (passed down from the parent)! Providing this service and, and no discipline, is how these two stay on the SBAC cycle after cycle!

    Check out the Discipline comparison here: https://edudata.fldoe.org/ReportCards/Schools.html?school=0000&district=01

    You’ll have to scroll down the page to the link for: Discipline and Attendance

    Of course, these two are not alone on the SBAC and they currently have two accomplices in continuously creating an “Emergency of the Week”, that always take priority over actually taking action to improve ACPS performance and discipline.

    The problem is not funds, as ACPS spends over $$10,000 annually on each student!

    Take a look at the past SBAC Meetings here: https://go.boarddocs.com/fl/alaco/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=DBKQXP6A6B61

    Parents who care: Apply for School of Choice and get your children out of ACPS as soon as possible!

    • Sure, but what non-religious choices besides elitest Oak Hall, which doesn’t take the voucher, are there for middle and high school in SW Gainesville?

      • Frazer School announces big expansion plans for 2025-26 school year (Alachua Chronicle, January 6, 2025):

        https://alachuachronicle.com/frazer-school-announces-big-expansion-plans-for-2025-26-school-year/

        Per the article, Frazer School plans to have HS and MS for the 2025/2026 School Year.

        I’ll assume you have checked into and are not interested in St. Francis Academy since it is religion based. It surely would be worth consideration if I wanted out of ACPS badly enough.

        Good luck!

        • Frazer school is not as balanced as I would like in terms of specials. Plus it is over 45 min away with traffic one way. That’s why I mentioned the SW part of the county

      • FLVS flex or full time is a free online option.

        Santa Fe College allows for dual enrollment for high schoolers (part or full time) at no cost, classes available at several campuses or online if eligible.

        There are private charter schools in the area but I have no experience with them.

        • Sure, but I was hoping for something like the Rock but without religion

          I want my kids to do the majority of their school in brick and mortar

      • A little religion will do you some good. Do you know the Lord’s Prayer? Your constitutional rights come from god, not man. The 10 commandments are good rules too.

        • We are active in church but I don’t want my children in religious schools.

          • Religion is History and our children should learn history as well as STEM. I do not understand your reluctance to a religion based education.

          • Because religion, especially Christianity is complicated. As youth are impressionable, I like to keep a careful eye on my children’s religious education. Just like most of us want some agency over what and when our kids are taught about reproduction, I want some agency in how my children learn about religion

          • While history contains religion, I don’t believe religion is history. While religion has historical significance, it in itself does not constitute history.
            That being said, maybe the parent has reluctance to the teaching of certain religious doctrines. For myself, I wouldn’t want my children to attend a Wicca based doctrine any more than I would a Muslim based.
            But who am I? Just another opinion, like everyone else on this board.

        • Shaquonda. What kind of religion? Careful, don’t imply your decided religion is necessarily better than all the others and careful with telling someone a little religion will do them good. Remember that little part about “casting the first stone”?
          For future reference, He should be referred to as God, and not god.

          • Jesus Christ . The group and government put him ( an individual) on the cross…don’t do what we say and you are going to end up like him. They use fear to control.

          • I don’t believe He would approve your use of His name in that context.
            Just in case I misinterpreted, Jesus Christ is not a religion.
            Have a nice weekend.

    • 8+12, good references.

      One of the greatest obstacles to overcome is their constituents’ inability to understand black and white. They’re incapable of any comprehension and knowledge of the damage those two have caused on the district. About the only thing they’ve managed to teach members of the population is there’s someone else to blame for the inabilities of some black people to be successful, and unless you rely on someone or something else, they’ll always fail.

      Fortunate for some, we’re smarter than a 5th grader and know the biggest thing holding people back are themselves. Time to stop blaming others and take responsibility.

  • It is time for the state of Florida to take over this school district who cannot pay their teachers properly or educate their students.

  • The school board of Alachua County Should be sued for unfair hiring practices. Get rid of Tina Certain, Beverly Finley and all of the OLD REGIME…. It be your own people

  • A lawsuit with what money? Millions in debt. Is she planning to use the 1% teacher raise to fund this or is she planning on cutting some of the 6-figure jobs downtown?

  • Nothing reported contradicts Certain’s quoted statement from the Sun “that an individual who worked for the Charter School Review Commission advised those in favor of the charter conversion not to bother filling out comment cards because a decision had already been made” or her interpretation that “. ‘It was decided before we got there.’” What is reported and what Certain experienced could both be true, and given the background of 4 of the 6 board members in charter schools and conservative think tanks, not beyond imagination.

    Also given that the 50% rule was changed after the fact, though it is now claimed it always meant that 50% was sufficient, and that the legal fine points of Florida Statutes may be open to interpretation, the issue is likely murkier than reported here.

    • Nearly every school board (and city and county commission) decision is decided before they get there, based on your criteria. Those boards have 100% Democrats, so nobody is surprised when the votes come out exactly as predicted. Similarly, governor-appointed boards will mostly lean Republican. Elections have consequences, and this goes both ways.

    • It is obvious through plain observation that you leftifts have no clue as to the ranking between Statutes and Rules… Statutes take precedence as these are the directions set out by the legislature thru law…… a rule is simply the appropriate agency making a rule based on the Statute. Rules are subordinate to Law (Statutes)

      • Someone other than
        ‘leftists” were clearly confused about these statutes and rules since they bothered to vote to change their rule from more than 50% to 50%. But hey, I ‘m not a lawyer and I doubt the reporter on this article is though she tries to tell us the true meaning of the relevant statute. Claiming those true meanings are cut and dried and disprove Ms Certain is not obviously true.

  • It’d help more if Certain just laid out exactly how she’d improve children’s education here. No need to make excuses. If she thinks we can outlaw non-public schools, including charter and magnet schools, then explain how a monopoly helps education, but not any other industry?

    • Certain has had 10 years to sell her ideas. The only result has been the numbers getting worse year after year (and more expensive to the taxpayers also). When will the voters who bother, wake up to the reality of the incompetent school board members?

  • I’m pretty sure the majority of the parents in the county would prefer the funds to be utilized directly for the benefit of teachers, support staff and students vs a lawsuit challenging a state decision regarding a charter conversion at one school.

  • As a former SBAC teacher I did not leave because of low pay or lack of respect from the SBAC. I left because of the lack of support for “reasonable discipline” for disruptive students. A very small amount of students cause the majority of problems yet they are sent right back into the classroom. Parents, teachers and administrators know this is a problem. But our SBAC is obsessed with losing this one elementary school. According to the FLDOE, charter school students make up 5.9% of Alachua County students (2022-2023). https://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/7778/urlt/CharterSchoolEnrollmentShare2122.pdf
    Watch this number grow as the SBAC wastes taxpayer money and effort on this issue. Someone mentioned Santa Fe. They recently started the Academy of Science and Technology, for high school students. Enrollment is bursting at the seams.
    https://www.sfcollege.edu/academy/

  • As a tax payer and a parent that actually lives in Newberry and has children in the public elementary school here, I need to share personal insight on this issue:

    As much as I like to see things improve with education. Taking over Newberry Elementary and making it a charter would have been the last option a lot of us would have wanted. The cold hard fact that no one wants to acknowledge or argue is a very small number of people voted on this school and that is a big deal. This wasn’t voted on as a community, it was very limited on who could vote. We will be paying more tax dollars and there were people who didn’t have a voice it in. Alot of us did not have representation or a voice in the education of our children but also how our tax dollars will be used on this. Even more interesting, the Dept of Education rep in the article failed to acknowledge this and keep in scope the parents did not pass the vote for NES when he provided his opinion and recommendation. How odd and convenient is that? To not consider the parent vote and cherry pick when statutes and rules are not consistent? Do we want parents to have a say in our kids’ education or not?

    Alot of us feel that the school board can do better, but things are not bad enough to where we wanted our freedom and voices to be limited or taken away when it comes to our kids. Why take a public option out of an entire town? If people want a charter school so bad, then build one. Then it can be run whatever way and gives us the choice to decide where we want our kids. If things were bad enough I would put my kids in a different school now.

    The school board definitely needs to step of their game, but it should be recognized there were some good things they did especially for NES. Last year NES increased to an “A” school under school board leadership, currently houses one of the highest performing/scoring VPK programs in the entire county and possibly the state (which is a school board program), and the school board did try to provide funds to build and add more classrooms and facilities there before the City of Newberry stepped in and re-altered the funds to the middle school (documented on a public commissioner meeting by the way). Now those same people use that as a talking point on why NES is so terrible and it was because of a decision they made.

    Yea, we want better for all our kids. The school board should do better. But I don’t think we need to trade one mess for a worse mess that already has red flags with integrity, judgement, and freedom concerns. I hope the City of Newberry commissioners and the mayor does better in being more transparent and finds a way to get trust back. Pushing this vote through and how everything was handled up to this point. I had high hopes going into this. I’m not so sure now.

    • It sounds like you’re just repeating talking points you’ve read on social media because you got a very important detail wrong: the Newberry Elementary parents voted in favor of the charter school, 149-125. The controversy is over the teacher vote.

  • She is a hateful, spiteful, and racist person. Always has been, always will be.

  • Speaking of Tina Certain’s statements: anyone see her comment on TV20’s Facebook page’s coverage of the lady firing shots at Walmart last week? If not, it went like this:
    David Arreola commented that it sounded like she wanted someone to end her life for her.
    Tina Certain responded “If she was black, LEO would’ve ended this hours ago- I read she pointed the gun at LEO then at her head. Unbelievable that no officer has ‘feared for their life.’”
    Arreola then responded “Wow that’s shocking and too right!”
    So apparently Police are all racist in her eyes. Quite the assumption…and real professional, given her job title!
    She seriously needs reprimand (termination, actually) over that one

      • No, just the screen shots. It was screen-shotted to me.
        Like you, I also don’t follow TV20.

    • Apparently in Arreola’s eyes as well.
      But he’ll say anything to gain favor/votes, (sounds like other commissioners), with the black communities.

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